The missing generation.

[Askold]

Having some kids in the project would help with the age cap between new children being born and the Project members aging if they are unable to recruit/find outsiders with children. But it would also take up more resources and in case of an accident it might be that only the kids wake up in some facility leaving them in a pinch.

Another way to deal with the age cap would be to have more adults kept frozen and to wake up some of them in a later stage of the Project. That way no matter which group wakes up they are made up from trained personnel and aren't burdened with kids. (At the start at least.)

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Wouldn't the Project have or have sponsored sperm and egg banks?

The ones that sort people by education, achievements, and success.

So you would want the Project to start doing eugenics?

...Actually, that could give a whole new scenario for the rpg if the players find out that there is some splinter faction or inner circle of the Project that was into eugenics and decided to use the project as a way to get rid of the undesirables and make way for the "master race" take over the earth. (wether that would be generic aryan neo-nazis or just some non-ethnic "pure" humans free of genetic disorders etc.) Then they would have to find out how many people in the Project are part of this faction and wether or not they can trust their comrades. (Ok, this idea may have been influenced partially by me having seen the second Captain America movie recently.)

[mikeo80]

IMHO, as I read TMP, I see more of a "teach a man to fish" mentality. Finding those that have needed skills and preserving those skills. A civil engineer now is probably more useful that a potential one.

IF you go with the later war date of 2017, and the advancement of computers and storage devices, I can see more and more effort being put into preserving knowledge.

My $0.02

Mike

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by Askold

So you would want the Project to start doing eugenics?

No.

I don't see the point in disappearing children to repopulate a devastated American population with known inheritable disorders.

The surviving population is suffering radiation poisoning as well as genetic disorders due to radiation exposure. The rate of spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) is going to be very high among survivors of child bearing age. Bring these children out of cryosleep at war day + 10 years, 20 years, and 30 years allows a phase in of healthy stock. Stock which by the way would have to survive the "Typhoid Mary's" in the war survivors too.

[stormlion1]

The United States isn't exactly a continental wasteland so there will be plenty of people suffering from minimal amounts of radiation damage or mutation so 'breeding stock' shouldn't be a priority. The Morrow Teams themselves are inherently uncorrupted 'breeding stock' themselves. New Breeding Stock for cattle or Horses or Chickens or whatnot would have more priority I would think in the long run and would by definition be spread out more to teams that would have a use for them than a bunch of little kids they would have to take care of once there awoken.

[Askold]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

No.

I don't see the point in disappearing children to repopulate a devastated American population with known inheritable disorders.

The surviving population is suffering radiation poisoning as well as genetic disorders due to radiation exposure. The rate of spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) is going to be very high among survivors of child bearing age. Bring these children out of cryosleep at war day + 10 years, 20 years, and 30 years allows a phase in of healthy stock. Stock which by the way would have to survive the "Typhoid Mary's" in the war survivors too.

a) That would still count as eugenics.
b) If you were only interested in not having genetic disorders why did you specify picking donors with education, achievements and success?


Stormlion1:
Ooh, good point about farm animals, some stored sperm for cows, horses etc. just in case the breeding stock has become too small.

[stormlion1]

Originally Posted by Askold

a) That would still count as eugenics.
b) If you were only interested in not having genetic disorders why did you specify picking donors with education, achievements and success?


Stormlion1:
Ooh, good point about farm animals, some stored sperm for cows, horses etc. just in case the breeding stock has become too small.

Actually that is in one of the books I think. Fall Back if I remember correctly.

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by stormlion1

Actually that is in one of the books I think. Fall Back if I remember correctly.

Correct. There is a "agricultural recovery" site run by the Morrow Project.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Askold

a) That would still count as eugenics.
b) If you were only interested in not having genetic disorders why did you specify picking donors with education, achievements and success?

While I suppose such filtration or source DNA would technically be eugenics, I think it is par for the course in general when people are choosing samples to use. My experience in this area is limited to cliches used in television, but wanting a donor who is successful (say a Harvard Grad) seems to be the norm.

That gets a little weird for me in terms or projects goals to do in humans. IVF within the project would be complicated and expensive (as it is in real life). I can see some use in animals, but I think that is about as far as my project would go in that area.

I suppose the final decision would depend on my timeline and if there was some project "magic" that made it cost effective.

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by Askold

a) That would still count as eugenics.
b) If you were only interested in not having genetic disorders why did you specify picking donors with education, achievements and success?


Stormlion1:
Ooh, good point about farm animals, some stored sperm for cows, horses etc. just in case the breeding stock has become too small.

Simply because this is the "Donation" criteria for a sperm bank.

Minimum a Bachelors Degree, minimum income threshold (waived for Graduate students), free of congenital disorders.