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Old 01-26-2015, 09:22 AM
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Are we taking into consideration the difference between military and civilian ammo?
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:17 AM
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The problem here is the game system, which does not allow for greater differentiation between firearms and their roles.
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Old 01-26-2015, 01:20 PM
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Targan: i took the numbers from the book, which i think say .30-06.

Draq: well, no. Its T2K so maybe the ammo is even worse than civilian?!?!

Paul: i don't want your excuses! Make something up!

I just found it interesting there was no real difference. I already add a +1 to hit modifier if shooting a bolt action rifle (first shot of a round only). Though that doesn't help differentiate the weapons mentioned here.

How else could you do it?

Maybe civilian rifles won't take the knocks and tumbles as much, get damaged and perhaps have a negative to hit number (which the PC doesn't know, or needs to pass a secret weapons check first after each fire fight to pick it up)?

Maybe civilian rifles are slower to fire (increase their bulk number if using it for order of action purposes)?
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Old 01-26-2015, 04:51 PM
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Default The USMC M40 is effectively a "miliitarized" Remington 700

At the level of T2K there provably should be little difference between a 1990s deer rifle and a 1990 sniper rifle.

The USMC's M40 rifle, which was more accurate than the Army's M21 was a Remington 700 that was militarized and tuned by USMC armorers. The SVD was a notoriously poor 'sniper' rifle. They (USSR) actually used it much more like a designated marksman rifle than what we (US/NATO) would consider a sniper rifle.

The scope is a very significant portion of the weapons accuracy. Military sniper scopes are going to be far more robust then civilian deer hunting rifles.

The real difference is going to be in the skill of the user.
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:26 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parker_Hale_M82

The Canadian army used a version of the civilian rifle until 2001.
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Old 01-26-2015, 09:53 PM
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Take a look at the thread I just put up. Using the program it will differentiate between an average hunting rifle and sniper rifle. It also makes differences between the action types. ie essentially the Semi Auto SVD is less accurate than the Rem 700. Both are less accurate than the M40. Given all other factors being equal.
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