San Diego Based Article?

[kalos72]

What about a throwback to the old PT gunboats perhaps? Those would do well against a ship without missiles I would think.

[Wolf sword]

Originally Posted by kalos72

What about a throwback to the old PT gunboats perhaps? Those would do well against a ship without missiles I would think.

Well for the fact almost all of the WW2 era PT boats were wrecked at the end of the war. I know of 1 working ww2 pt boat this was restored in 2012 or 13 by a bunch of pt boat vets.
I think the navy would have grab the coast guard boats to make a squadron of "modern PT" raiders (and I don't see that going over to well with the coast guard, this could be a plot point for a defection of the coast guard over to CivGov)

[stormlion1]

Actually the Navy would probably just go into a Marina and seize speedboats and arm them and then make use of a superyacht or a small tanker to keep them fueled. Just bolt on a 50 cal and maybe a mortar and pack a few Stingers below decks. Easy almost ready made PT Boats. No torpedos though, but there another issue altogether.

[kalos72]

My groups is under the believe that an organized cantonment should be able to make 40-50's tech on a small scale by 2001. So some Mark 14's or something should be possible, albeit few of them to start.

[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by stormlion1

Actually the Navy would probably just go into a Marina and seize speedboats and arm them and then make use of a superyacht or a small tanker to keep them fueled. Just bolt on a 50 cal and maybe a mortar and pack a few Stingers below decks. Easy almost ready made PT Boats. No torpedos though, but there another issue altogether.

I agree. They would probably just pull an Iran. Iran had speed boats (SeaRays mostly) with mines, SA-7s, and RPG-7's/Recoilless Rifles mounted on them. They did cause a number of problems for commercial shipping in the Gulf during the 80's.
Let's not forget that there are a number of large (50ft+) "Pleasure Trawlers" out there. The first one that comes to my mind would be the Grand Banks line of trawlers. These ships can only do 12 knots but they have an endurance of around 5000 Nautical Miles and a significant deck space. Just go to the Grand Banks website to see what one of these trawlers look like. There are hundreds of them just in the US alone. They could easily be used to support an "expedition."

[stormlion1]

Originally Posted by swaghauler

I agree. They would probably just pull an Iran. Iran had speed boats (SeaRays mostly) with mines, SA-7s, and RPG-7's/Recoilless Rifles mounted on them. They did cause a number of problems for commercial shipping in the Gulf during the 80's.
Let's not forget that there are a number of large (50ft+) "Pleasure Trawlers" out there. The first one that comes to my mind would be the Grand Banks line of trawlers. These ships can only do 12 knots but they have an endurance of around 5000 Nautical Miles and a significant deck space. Just go to the Grand Banks website to see what one of these trawlers look like. There are hundreds of them just in the US alone. They could easily be used to support an "expedition."

I didn't want to say it but the Iranian Navy was what I was thinking of.

[rcaf_777]

Iranian Navy Boats and Navy Aircraft

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by stormlion1

Actually the Navy would probably just go into a Marina and seize speedboats and arm them and then make use of a superyacht or a small tanker to keep them fueled. Just bolt on a 50 cal and maybe a mortar and pack a few Stingers below decks. Easy almost ready made PT Boats. No torpedos though, but there another issue altogether.

Don't forget DEA, armed customs craft. The USCG would have been rolled into the navy like WWII.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by .45cultist

The USCG would have been rolled into the navy like WWII.

Kind of. There's still an independent USCG in one of the Last Submarine modules, but most of their larger combat-capable ships have been taken by the Navy.

[rcaf_777]

Here are some chart in ref to the Iowa class I found them here

http://web.mst.edu/~rogersda/military_service/


Good Info to life in US Navy 1980's to 1995

[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by rcaf_777

Here are some chart in ref to the Iowa class I found them here

http://web.mst.edu/~rogersda/military_service/


Good Info to life in US Navy 1980's to 1995

Nice post. Most people don't realize that your top speed in a "displacement hull" (planning hulls are different) is a function of waterline length. There is an inverse to this advantage though; Turning Speed/Area Required for Turns. This is why the real pirates of The Caribbean used smaller ships with shoal drafts. They would "out turn" the larger Naval ships and run for the cover of any nearby shoals. The larger Naval vessels could not enter the Pirate's strongholds due to their deeper draft.

[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by Targan

Kind of. There's still an independent USCG in one of the Last Submarine modules, but most of their larger combat-capable ships have been taken by the Navy.

As far as I know, The Coast Guard has one very important mission in the event of war that would keep it "local." It is tasked with long range patrol, convoy protection and coastal ASW in the event of war.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by swaghauler

As far as I know, The Coast Guard has one very important mission in the event of war that would keep it "local." It is tasked with long range patrol, convoy protection and coastal ASW in the event of war.

I'd give the DEA boats to the USCG then to free up assets or utilize any "Greybeards" amongst the locals.