if you could have any vehicle

[Olefin]

if i had to choose - an M1 or Bradley for their ability to actually reach out and touch enemy armor - sure they also make you a target and are fuel pigs - but they give you the best chance to actually survive those chance encounters with armor that your Hummer or deuce and a half are going to be nothing but flaming debris against

[Draq]

My practical choices: m113, t-72, hmmvvw
my just because choices: bmp, obj-279, btr-152, Cadillac stingray, mi-24 hind...

[.45cultist]

Light and heavy HumVees, good old M35/M36 possibly as a gun truck. Even civilians could have an M113 or a V150, they cost in the Real World though. Saw a video from Syria which proves a T55 is not a runner up at all.

[ArmySGT.]

Westphalia Camper Van.

sleep and eat in comfort. Absolutely useless in combat, priceless as comfort on wheels....... Ridiculously common.

[mpipes]

I'ld say a M1A2, but it is such a gas guzzler, I'm not sure it would be worth the trouble. Maybe a HMMWV FSV or M3A3. There is also the LAV-75A4 or M10 on Paul's site.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

I find it more interesting to see what people would choose as vehicles than their choices for anything else in the game.
It seems to me that those players who like a general mix of play styles opt for vehicles that are multi-use (as in useful for cargo or passengers, somewhat easier on upkeep, give some level of comfort and can provide some level of protection), while those players that like more combative games go for vehicles that can "do the damage" on the enemy e.g. MICVs, MBTs, and those who seem to think in terms of rebuilding go for vehicles with a much more utilitarian function e.g. ARVs.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Westphalia Camper Van.

sleep and eat in comfort. Absolutely useless in combat, priceless as comfort on wheels....... Ridiculously common.

A T2K adventure to keep this versus refugees with looted weapons.....Hmmm.

[Legbreaker]

Originally Posted by .45cultist

A T2K adventure to keep this versus refugees with looted weapons.....Hmmm.

I'll take one of these.
http://www.tankedup.com.au/promotion...lery/hacklabs/
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[StainlessSteelCynic]

I hope you have enough supplies to keep the mini-bar stocked!

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by .45cultist

Light and heavy HumVees, good old M35/M36 possibly as a gun truck. Even civilians could have an M113 or a V150, they cost in the Real World though. Saw a video from Syria which proves a T55 is not a runner up at all.

Is that the one that got popped in the turret with an ATGM and tipped it's hat?

[raketenjagdpanzer]

For civilian settings? A garbage truck. Ditch the hydraulics, do some face-hardening of available mild steel (like from dumpsters and whatnot), make it splinter and small-caliber resistant, loads of room in the back, durable as hell. Stinks to high heaven but if you clean it out and pad it out you've got a 20-passenger personnel carrier. And it absolutely has the suspension and horsepower to carry the additional armor (esp. once you ditch the hydraulics) and so on.

Military? Stryker or LAV. Possibly M113 although throwing or breaking a track would be a constant worry. If I'd established a landhold/firebase/cantonment somewhere, an Abrams or a Stingray plus a few trucks as a QRF.

[Olefin]

keeping an M1 going is definitely an exercise in finding or making a hell of a lot of fuel

we managed to obtain some from the Soviets (you would be amazed how quickly a guy driving a tanker truck full of fuel from Ploesti surrenders after the BMP and BTR escorting him get turned into flaming debris) and also by hiring ourselves out (i.e. town needing help against marauders who was very glad to exchange alcohol fuel for said marauders getting turned into assorted body parts and burning T-55 in northern Poland on our way back to Omega) as well as one very lucky series of rolls we made to find a buried tank full of diesel in what was supposed to be a destroyed oilfield/refinery complex

definitely provided a lot of opportunities for our GM with how often we ran low on fuel

[pmulcahy11b]

I'd want something that can transport a decent amount of people/stuff, has parts compatibility with a lot of vehicles already out there, can be easily modded to do something about the armor, and can have retrofitted weapon mounts. For all this, I say...

...the M577. It's a decent compromise between cargo hauler and armored vehicle. Just needs some work first.

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I'd want something that can transport a decent amount of people/stuff, has parts compatibility with a lot of vehicles already out there, can be easily modded to do something about the armor, and can have retrofitted weapon mounts. For all this, I say...

...the M577. It's a decent compromise between cargo hauler and armored vehicle. Just needs some work first.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0567165/

[LT. Ox]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

For civilian settings? A garbage truck. Ditch the hydraulics, do some face-hardening of available mild steel (like from dumpsters and whatnot), make it splinter and small-caliber resistant, loads of room in the back, durable as hell. Stinks to high heaven but if you clean it out and pad it out you've got a 20-passenger personnel carrier. And it absolutely has the suspension and horsepower to carry the additional armor (esp. once you ditch the hydraulics) and so on.

Military? Stryker or LAV. Possibly M113 although throwing or breaking a track would be a constant worry. If I'd established a landhold/firebase/cantonment somewhere, an Abrams or a Stingray plus a few trucks as a QRF.

Interesting thought. I had not really given consideration to what I might use at or around 1998 to 2000 here in the states and since I am thinking about a game in that time frame here goes;
1. An older Brinks armored van that is sitting in a junk yard somewhere and has a Restorable engine, IE pre electronic ignition.
2. Any one of the "surplus” armored cars in use by law enforcement
3. Above Garbage truck.
4. Dump truck "Diesel" mod.
5. above recreational .
Hmmm I am going to spend some more time on this.

[Olefin]

Heck if you are here in the US you could have almost anything you can think of - sheer variety of vehicles here, combined with what collectors have that is still operational (Stuart tank anyone?), means you could have just about anything - and the idea of bank armored cars being turned into APC's is one that is basically canon

they are in both the the Urban Guerilla module and A River Runs Thru It in Challenge - so having a character in a US setting start out with an armored bank car turned into an APC is completely believeable

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by LT. Ox

Interesting thought. I had not really given consideration to what I might use at or around 1998 to 2000 here in the states and since I am thinking about a game in that time frame here goes;
1. An older Brinks armored van that is sitting in a junk yard somewhere and has a Restorable engine, IE pre electronic ignition.
2. Any one of the "surplus” armored cars in use by law enforcement
3. Above Garbage truck.
4. Dump truck "Diesel" mod.
5. above recreational .
Hmmm I am going to spend some more time on this.

One of the competitors to the MRAP uses garbage truck componants to ease city costs, but most get "free" MRAPs that use the more costly and rarer Family of Tactical Vehicle parts or what ever the new "M" series trucks are called.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by raketenjagdpanzer

Is that the one that got popped in the turret with an ATGM and tipped it's hat?

Yep! Be sure to get an enhanced armor package.