Tank graveyard

[Legbreaker]

http://balashnikov.com/showthread.ph...anks-go-to-Die
Can't believe the Israeli's are scrapping AFVs, especially Merkavas (even if they are Mark 1's)!

[Olefin]

Oh I am not saying those museums and Littlefield's shop and collection are better than an actual manned depot - but they are a lot better than nothing or a blacksmith and an auto mechanic trying to bring an old M47 back to life to fight marauders or the Mexicans

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

http://balashnikov.com/showthread.ph...anks-go-to-Die
Can't believe the Israeli's are scrapping AFVs, especially Merkavas (even if they are Mark 1's)!

Even the MK 1s are a drain on resources when they a fielding the MK3 and the MK4 is in development.

Those M48s, M60s, and T55s don't stand a chance against the current ATGMs and can't fight at night anyway. Israel doesn't have a lot of friends that they can sell to any way. The ones that they would sell to can do better than this stuff at home.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Those M48s, M60s, and T55s don't stand a chance against the current ATGMs and can't fight at night anyway. Israel doesn't have a lot of friends that they can sell to any way. The ones that they would sell to can do better than this stuff at home.

It's surprising that they haven't repurposed those hulls. The Israelis still field heavy APCs based on the T-55 hull (the "Achzarit"*) and they use other obsolete MBT hulls for dedicated combat engineering vehicles. Those must be bottom-of-the-barrel examples to be completely discarded.

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDF_Achzarit

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by Raellus

It's surprising that they haven't repurposed those hulls. The Israelis still field heavy APCs based on the T-55 hull (the "Achzarit"*) and they use other obsolete MBT hulls for dedicated combat engineering vehicles. Those must be bottom-of-the-barrel examples to be completely discarded.

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IDF_Achzarit

They are just making purpose built engineering and breeching equipment on newer hulls. The obsolete systems are probably running out of parts and it would be expensive and redundant to make parts for those and Merkava Mk3 and Namurs. That and they have been going heavy on wheeled armored MRAP types lately.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

They are just making purpose built engineering and breeching equipment on newer hulls. The obsolete systems are probably running out of parts and it would be expensive and redundant to make parts for those and Merkava Mk3 and Namurs. That and they have been going heavy on wheeled armored MRAP types lately.

That makes sense. They have so many old T-54/55 chassis, though, a lack of spare parts probably isn't prohibitive. And I reckon that the unit cost of the Achzarit is considerably lower than that of the Namer.

That said, the Namer looks badass. I'd take a Namer over an Achzarit any day. It was evaluated by the U.S. as a Bradley replacement. I kind of wish it'd won.

[Raellus]

An HE or WP 81mm mortar round can take out even the most modern MBTs. A direct hit on the engine deck can cause a total mobility kill. A hit close enough to the wheels/track/track return can cause a temporary mobility kill.

[raketenjagdpanzer]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Even the MK 1s are a drain on resources when they a fielding the MK3 and the MK4 is in development.

Those M48s, M60s, and T55s don't stand a chance against the current ATGMs and can't fight at night anyway. Israel doesn't have a lot of friends that they can sell to any way. The ones that they would sell to can do better than this stuff at home.

The Israelis rebuilt their M48s as ATGM carriers. They apparently still think enough of them to keep them in the line in that role.