XR-311 ....... 3-2-1 Discuss.

[RandyT0001]

the mass is 32 then I subtract the 12 for the 20
then divided the 20 by 3 to determine the dex adjustment of 6.6667 that is subtracted from the standard starting dex of 20 as listed on page 249.
I just rounded it up to get the 14 as stated in the book so I guess all are rounded up.

Does that answer this question?

How do you think the -1 per 3 mass over 12 factored in?

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[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

That is really good. Thanks. How do you think the -1 per 3 mass over 12 factored in?

This is also on page 175.

[Ieqo]

There's another advantage that the 311 has that both the HMMWV and the M1951 Jeep lack: the 311 was not in the US (or Canadian or Soviet) military inventory. Therefore, teams could tool around without looking like the Army and (perhaps more importantly) without looking like they were trying to look like the Army. In the 3-5 year planning scenario there'd almost certainly still be some active Guard units doing their thing so the Project planners would have wanted to do whatever they could to give their teams a chance to say "Hey. This is who we are and what we're trying to do." BEFORE getting shot at.

As for the usual bitching about the 311 in Damocles... Prime Base would probably not have woke the team up in the Winter anyway, so from an operational planning standpoint, nothing to see here. The way it plays out it acts as an additional clue that Something Is Wrong Here. There aren't any rules for teams getting hypothermia. Someone made that crap up. It just emphasizes that it's freaking cold and gives the team incentive to make contact with Wittsend.

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by Ieqo

There's another advantage that the 311 has that both the HMMWV and the M1951 Jeep lack: the 311 was not in the US (or Canadian or Soviet) military inventory. Therefore, teams could tool around without looking like the Army and (perhaps more importantly) without looking like they were trying to look like the Army. In the 3-5 year planning scenario there'd almost certainly still be some active Guard units doing their thing so the Project planners would have wanted to do whatever they could to give their teams a chance to say "Hey. This is who we are and what we're trying to do." BEFORE getting shot at.

Unfortunately, it has a .50 M2HB loaded in the ring turret. Regardless of whether it is an XR-311, HMMWV, or a LandRover....... if the Team was woken in the 3-5 year plan I don't see any surviving Law Enforcement, National Guard, or Federal Troops allowing them to operate. They would be imprisoned and their equipment confiscated. Whatever the altruistic tale they could spin would be disregarded, ignored, laughed at, or treated as a lie.

Originally Posted by Ieqo

As for the usual bitching about the 311 in Damocles... Prime Base would probably not have woke the team up in the Winter anyway, so from an operational planning standpoint, nothing to see here. The way it plays out it acts as an additional clue that Something Is Wrong Here. There aren't any rules for teams getting hypothermia. Someone made that crap up. It just emphasizes that it's freaking cold and gives the team incentive to make contact with Wittsend.

PF2 Damocles, Play of the game, section 1, Section 5, page 31

[ArmySGT.]

Vehicle data and Hit tables for the Project XR-311 w/ M2HB

The most common team support vehicle and pack mule.

XR-311 Hit tables.pdf

[Rockwolf66]

I know it's a bit of a thread Necro but does anyone know how much 7.62X51mm ammo an XR-311 would have carried?

[mmartin798]

The 4th edition rules list 2000 rounds, which is not unreasonable. 7.62x51mm linked is packed as a 200 cartridge belt in a M19A1 ammo box. Each box measures 11" x 3.8125" x7.25". Packing 10 will take up a space of 33" x 7.625" x14.5", or 2.11 cu ft. the XR311 has 33 cu ft of cargo space behind the seats, so it sounds about right.

[cosmicfish]

Originally Posted by mmartin798

The 4th edition rules list 2000 rounds, which is not unreasonable. 7.62x51mm linked is packed as a 200 cartridge belt in a M19A1 ammo box. Each box measures 11" x 3.8125" x7.25". Packing 10 will take up a space of 33" x 7.625" x14.5", or 2.11 cu ft. the XR311 has 33 cu ft of cargo space behind the seats, so it sounds about right.

Don't just think about the volume, think about the weight. 2000 rounds of linked 7.62 is pretty close to 150lb, and that is a good chunk of your nominal payload in a vehicle that size. That would be absolutely fine for something on a short patrol, but a Morrow team has to live out of their MPV's for an extended time. You might have better use for that mass.

[Rockwolf66]

Originally Posted by cosmicfish

Don't just think about the volume, think about the weight. 2000 rounds of linked 7.62 is pretty close to 150lb, and that is a good chunk of your nominal payload in a vehicle that size. That would be absolutely fine for something on a short patrol, but a Morrow team has to live out of their MPV's for an extended time. You might have better use for that mass.

You are forgetting that a 100 round can of .50 BMG weighs about 35 pounds each. So an M60 or FN MAG and 2k worth of ammo is actually going to be lighter than a M2HB and 500 rounds of ammo.

The TOW launcher version carries a 205 pound missile system and an additional 480 pounds of Missiles.

[nuke11]

A list of all of the cargo space available in/on the XR311.

1. Engine cover provides a platform for up to 850 lbs (386 kgs) of cargo. Provides over 19 cubic feet (0.54 cubic meters) of cargo space without exceeding the height of the vehicle.

2. Approximately 33 cubic feet (0.93 cubic meters) of space behind the seats. 60 cubic feet (1.7 cubic meters) of storage is available when the right seat is folded down with the center seat's back folded down.

3. 3.5 cubic feet (0.1 cubic meters) on a shelf beside the instrument panel.

I would guess a bit more space is available once the conventional engine is removed and replaced with a fusion one.

[cosmicfish]

Originally Posted by Rockwolf66

You are forgetting that a 100 round can of .50 BMG weighs about 35 pounds each. So an M60 or FN MAG and 2k worth of ammo is actually going to be lighter than a M2HB and 500 rounds of ammo.

The TOW launcher version carries a 205 pound missile system and an additional 480 pounds of Missiles.

I wasn't forgetting, alternate loads just hadn't been raised. One big issue with TMP is that most of these vehicles were designed for relatively short independent action, field teams may have to make some Oregon Trail-type decisions about what to carry!