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Old 05-15-2016, 05:28 PM
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Sure they might not be in the same unit but they would be in the same theater at least. No one, at the time when the units air power was all gone/destroyed/out of fuel or parts, would have the ability to move them far from where they were stationed at that time.

According to that orbat, there were like a dozen at LEAST numbered Air Forces. Where would they have been stationed at the start of the war at least?
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Sure they might not be in the same unit but they would be in the same theater at least. No one, at the time when the units air power was all gone/destroyed/out of fuel or parts, would have the ability to move them far from where they were stationed at that time.

According to that orbat, there were like a dozen at LEAST numbered Air Forces. Where would they have been stationed at the start of the war at least?
Per that OOB, there's three Air Forces in Europe, and two designated to follow. If one assumes that a numbered Air Force is command-equivalent to a field army, I doubt there'd be more than those 4 (1 in UK, 3 in Germany, 1 in Spain). One of those might have gone to Norway, then moved to Germany when that front was shut down. The one in Spain probably managed the Mediterranean air war. Of the Air Forces in Germany, perhaps one managed the southern front, and two for east?
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Not sure about PA but the New York State Thruway was build to be used for emergency landings and takeoffs for bombers and fighters. I don't know if they were intended for operational loading (i.e. fully loaded with bombs and fuel) but there have been over 20 landings on the Thruway by various small planes over the years - they even have been charged for using the Thruway when then do so (in 1976 there was a 300 dollar fee charged for using the Thruway to take off)

Keep in mind that there are still operational planes in the US - but that most likely they are used very very sparingly due to fuel shortages - that's one reason my GM had the Texas module used as a (successful) MilGov invasion to get the refinery and the avgas its making

there is no way that the USAF has absolutely no fuel in the US -for one we know there are still operational refineries in CA, OK, and IL from various canon sources - however it is probably being conserved to absolute priority missions only - probably needing personal approval from the Joint Chiefs or the President for its use
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there is no way that the USAF has absolutely no fuel in the US -for one we know there are still operational refineries in CA, OK, and IL from various canon sources - however it is probably being conserved to absolute priority missions only - probably needing personal approval from the Joint Chiefs or the President for its use
There may indeed be a small supply of fuel, but the big problem is getting it to where it's needed without burning it all on the way there.
Pre-war distribution networks are gone, even loading up a few trucks and hauling it isn't going to be all that effective with the lawless state of most of the country, not to mention damaged bridges, tunnels, flooding, etc.
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Not sure about PA but the New York State Thruway was build to be used for emergency landings and takeoffs for bombers and fighters. I don't know if they were intended for operational loading (i.e. fully loaded with bombs and fuel) but there have been over 20 landings on the Thruway by various small planes over the years - they even have been charged for using the Thruway when then do so (in 1976 there was a 300 dollar fee charged for using the Thruway to take off)

The relative small size of some countries and the limited number of major airports and airbases would make this necessary due to the fact that they would be likely targets, but I think less so in America. Although some major American roads were undoubtedly designed with this in mind, I don't think the use of the road system by the military for emergency take off and landings is much of an issue due to the fact that the country is literally littered with runways both military and civilian.

California for example probably has nearly as many major runways (and minor ones) as the whole of Western Europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._in_California

The other states...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

...and then click on the individual state.
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Edwards is I think the runway capital of the world, dozens of them including a number of the worlds longest runways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwards_Air_Force_Base
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