TW2k13

[Milano]

If anyone is still playing around with TW2013 I could sure use alittle help with creating small arms. I would like to plug in the numbers into an excel file I created but am still having issues with the formulas to get to some of the numbers.

It was mentioned that there were some other forums out there that had come up with some of them. Might someone have the link or a name? Or even better any formulas or insights?

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by Milano

If anyone is still playing around with TW2013 I could sure use alittle help with creating small arms. I would like to plug in the numbers into an excel file I created but am still having issues with the formulas to get to some of the numbers.

It was mentioned that there were some other forums out there that had come up with some of them. Might someone have the link or a name? Or even better any formulas or insights?

93 Studios is defunct but those people are here. If you look most calibers are present, you might just need the weight and possible quirks.

[Milano]

I have access to all of the information but I want to find the equation to make the data. That they come up with. There are inconsistencies in their published data and before I just guesstimate I would like to know why or what they did to come up with it.

I have an Excel spreadsheet with ALL of their small arms on it but I don't want to post it because of copyright stuff.

But an example is the M21 weight is 5.2 length is 1118 mm. The speed is 4/6/9. The M16 DMR (their vernacular) is 5.4 length of 1187 speed of 4/6/8. Why the quicker speed? the M21 is both lighter and shorter.

Another example is the difference between the C7a2 and M16a3. Why does the M16a3 have a range of M/S and the C7 have a range of T/S?

Or the M4 has a recoil of 5, the 416 has a recoil of 4 yet the M4 weighs less?

Anyway, I am just a function freak or possibly my OCD is showing up but I dislike inconsistency.

[Medic]

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[Medic]

Originally Posted by Milano

Another example is the difference between the C7a2 and M16a3. Why does the M16a3 have a range of M/S and the C7 have a range of T/S?

I suspect, it is because the C7A2 has a telescopic stock, unlike the M16A3.

Or the M4 has a recoil of 5, the 416 has a recoil of 4 yet the M4 weighs less?

Exactly because of that. With the same round, the weapon with less weight gains more inertia through the recoil.

[rcaf_777]

Originally Posted by Medic

I suspect, it is because the C7A2 has a telescopic stock, unlike the M16A3.

Their is a bit more than that

The C7A2 has a modified Weaver rail for mounting optics(Some people call this a Picatinny Rail however the rail on C7A1 and further models pre dates Picatinny rail MIL-STD-1913). Most C7A2 have the C79 Optical sight attached, however this can removed by the user and back up iron site can attached.

The C7A2 can also fire on semi-automatic and fully automatic VS semi-automatic and burst(three rounds) of the M16A2/3

[Medic]

The point was, why the rifles had different range bands. That being said, the C7A2's difference in that matter is the stock, while it is otherwise the same weapon, when talking about range.

[Milano]

Yea your right about the recoil values? I got that a bit mixed up. Still though maybe I will be wishing for this for a long while to come. Just curious if anyone had a bit of insight for the formulas.

I do wish 93 hadn't gone belly up. I've never the opportunity to play 2013 but I do like the rule set. Hopefully I will play with my kids someday.