TW2k13

[swaghauler]

I was wondering if anyone had ever considered backtracking the TW2K13 rules to a more V2.2-like version. I wonder how much modification it would take to the Reflex System to just roll a single 1D20 BUT still use the Margins of Success and Margins of Failure the system uses. My first thought is to add the Skill Level number to the Base Target Number (as determined by the task's required characteristic score). I'd then add the modifiers but drop the limit of +5 to the Target Number bonuses. This seems to balance the Margin of Success probability when using only a single die to determine success.

Has anyone ever tried this?

[Tegyrius]

Originally Posted by swaghauler

I was wondering if anyone had ever considered backtracking the TW2K13 rules to a more V2.2-like version. I wonder how much modification it would take to the Reflex System to just roll a single 1D20 BUT still use the Margins of Success and Margins of Failure the system uses. My first thought is to add the Skill Level number to the Base Target Number (as determined by the task's required characteristic score). I'd then add the modifiers but drop the limit of +5 to the Target Number bonuses. This seems to balance the Margin of Success probability when using only a single die to determine success.

Has anyone ever tried this?

I've all but completely abandoned Reflex. With the clarity of hindsight, it'd be adequate as a computer-mediated system but it's too slow and cumbersome for the sort of tabletop play I prefer. Recently, I've found myself returning once again to one of its inspirations: the Synergy engine in second edition Blue Planet.

- C.

[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by Tegyrius

I've all but completely abandoned Reflex. With the clarity of hindsight, it'd be adequate as a computer-mediated system but it's too slow and cumbersome for the sort of tabletop play I prefer. Recently, I've found myself returning once again to one of its inspirations: the Synergy engine in second edition Blue Planet.

- C.

That's a shame after you invested so much in TW2K13. Your CUF rules are second to none and I use a simplified TICK system for Initiative. I also think your use of Qualifications as "subskills" was revolutionary.

I would love to see an "evolutionary" version of Twilight using the best features from all of the previous editions of the game.

[Tegyrius]

Originally Posted by swaghauler

That's a shame after you invested so much in TW2K13. Your CUF rules are second to none and I use a simplified TICK system for Initiative. I also think your use of Qualifications as "subskills" was revolutionary.

I would love to see an "evolutionary" version of Twilight using the best features from all of the previous editions of the game.

I do appreciate the words. We did most of the design work on Reflex over 2006-07, so it's been a decade... and I have, over those years, occasionally thought about what I'd do differently. The answer is "a hell of a lot." Honestly, I think the initiative system would be the first thing to go. In my playtesting and demo games, it's the hardest thing for new players to pick up, which means it's a significant barrier to entry - or a massive logistical burden on the GM. I'd also move a lot of sub-rules, like encumbrance and survival, from rigid simulations to a more narrative approach. Unfortunately, in doing that, I think I'd alienate the small percentage of the 2.0/2.2 fan base that still likes Reflex too. So I'd basically be writing a game system just for me. Not much of a return on investment in that...

- C.

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by swaghauler

I was wondering if anyone had ever considered backtracking the TW2K13 rules to a more V2.2-like version. I wonder how much modification it would take to the Reflex System to just roll a single 1D20 BUT still use the Margins of Success and Margins of Failure the system uses. My first thought is to add the Skill Level number to the Base Target Number (as determined by the task's required characteristic score). I'd then add the modifiers but drop the limit of +5 to the Target Number bonuses. This seems to balance the Margin of Success probability when using only a single die to determine success.

Has anyone ever tried this?

I plan to use the construction and computer net rules with V2.2. and try to modify some of the civilian careers and the final year. I will use a future timeline.

[Trongard]

SpyCraft 2.0 is available from drivethrurpg for very little cost... converts T2K13 to D20...