Prime Base Location-Reprise

[ArmySGT.]

I am more inclined to move Prime Base to something more central to the U.S.

If it is the National level HQ and needs to be far (relatively) from nuclear attack

Eastern Montana, Western Wyoming, Northern Colorado, Northern New Mexico, Eastern Oklahoma, and Western Missouri seem to be better situated than Northern Nevada.

Easier to splice one self into the existing AT&T and Defense Switched Network post attack.

[tsofian]

Western Missouri will still get hit. Even if the missile fields get deactivated Kansas City will get nuked and Whiteman air force base being a bomber base will still take several nukes. Kansas City has a DOE weapons facility. Additionally K. C. is strangely flush in government agencies. It is the Region VII headquarters for just about every major Federal agency (EPA and such).

Rumor has it that KC is a designated backup to DC if the capital should have an issue.

Terry

[ArmySGT.]

Originally Posted by tsofian

Western Missouri will still get hit. Even if the missile fields get deactivated Kansas City will get nuked and Whiteman air force base being a bomber base will still take several nukes. Kansas City has a DOE weapons facility. Additionally K. C. is strangely flush in government agencies. It is the Region VII headquarters for just about every major Federal agency (EPA and such).

Rumor has it that KC is a designated backup to DC if the capital should have an issue.

Terry

Prime Base in it's current location is under the fallout patterns for Sierra Army Depot, Fallon Naval Air Station, Reno NV, Carson NV, and Sacramento California. Not really in an ideal location right now.

[tsofian]

A) There is no "ideal location"

B) This doesn't actually seem to be a big deal to me. Fallout isn't a big deal to Prime Base while it button upped. Being in the fall out pattern might well be a great thing. It keeps folks away and after 3-5 years most of the radioactivity will be greatly reduced.

The Seven Ten rule will have a lot to say about that
The Seven Ten Rule[edit]
The danger of radiation from fallout also decreases with time, as radioactivity decays exponentially with time, such that for each factor of seven increase in time, the radiation is reduced by a factor of ten. For example, after 7 hours, the average dose rate is reduced by a factor of ten; after 49 hours, it is reduced by a further factor of ten (to 1/100th); after two weeks the radiation from the fallout will have reduced by a factor of 1000 compared the initial level; and after 14 weeks the average dose rate will have reduced to 1/10,000th of the initial level.[23]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Prime Base in it's current location is under the fallout patterns for Sierra Army Depot, Fallon Naval Air Station, Reno NV, Carson NV, and Sacramento California. Not really in an ideal location right now.

[tsofian]

A) There is no "ideal location"

B) This doesn't actually seem to be a big deal to me. Fallout isn't a big deal to Prime Base while it button upped. Being in the fall out pattern might well be a great thing. It keeps folks away and after 3-5 years most of the radioactivity will be greatly reduced.

The Seven Ten rule will have a lot to say about that
The Seven Ten Rule[edit]
The danger of radiation from fallout also decreases with time, as radioactivity decays exponentially with time, such that for each factor of seven increase in time, the radiation is reduced by a factor of ten. For example, after 7 hours, the average dose rate is reduced by a factor of ten; after 49 hours, it is reduced by a further factor of ten (to 1/100th); after two weeks the radiation from the fallout will have reduced by a factor of 1000 compared the initial level; and after 14 weeks the average dose rate will have reduced to 1/10,000th of the initial level.[23]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

Prime Base in it's current location is under the fallout patterns for Sierra Army Depot, Fallon Naval Air Station, Reno NV, Carson NV, and Sacramento California. Not really in an ideal location right now.

[.45cultist]

For a Missouri Prime Base could be hidden by reclaiming one or more of the old coal strip pits. Perhaps by making one part under an underground storage rental, one a resort for fishing and hunting, not sure about the third. A couple have been turned into deep lakes, but other wise become brush filled scars.

[dragoon500ly]

With a Missouri location, Prime is now located within striking distance of the Kentucky Free State.

On the other hand, placing Prime in Utah or Wyoming might be a better alternative.

[tsofian]

I looked at mines in Missouri and the issue is high ground water. The best solution would be the lead mines, they have huge chambers that would allow for large buildings. The fact that most of the pit mines filled with water and all the underground ones did shows just how bad an issue this would be. It would require Prime base to be completely watertight, well forever.

http://dnr.mo.gov/geology/lrp/surfac...ace-mining.htm

http://www.bonneterremine.com/

https://mostateparks.com/park/missou...-historic-site

Originally Posted by .45cultist

For a Missouri Prime Base could be hidden by reclaiming one or more of the old coal strip pits. Perhaps by making one part under an underground storage rental, one a resort for fishing and hunting, not sure about the third. A couple have been turned into deep lakes, but other wise become brush filled scars.

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by tsofian

I looked at mines in Missouri and the issue is high ground water. The best solution would be the lead mines, they have huge chambers that would allow for large buildings. The fact that most of the pit mines filled with water and all the underground ones did shows just how bad an issue this would be. It would require Prime base to be completely watertight, well forever.

http://dnr.mo.gov/geology/lrp/surfac...ace-mining.htm

http://www.bonneterremine.com/

https://mostateparks.com/park/missou...-historic-site

Then it forces the site westward or northwestward.

Considered western Nebraska?
Especially around Chaldron, just south of the Pine Ridge Reservation, rolling hill country, lightly populated, outside fall out patterns. Seems like an decent location for a base.

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by ArmySGT.

I am more inclined to move Prime Base to something more central to the U.S.

If it is the National level HQ and needs to be far (relatively) from nuclear attack

Eastern Montana, Western Wyoming, Northern Colorado, Northern New Mexico, Eastern Oklahoma, and Western Missouri seem to be better situated than Northern Nevada.

Easier to splice one self into the existing AT&T and Defense Switched Network post attack.

So we would have badges, bikers, breeders, children of the night, frozen chosen, inquisitors,slavers, just to name a few.... Hmmmm, possibilities!

[.45cultist]

Originally Posted by dragoon500ly

So we would have badges, bikers, breeders, children of the night, frozen chosen, inquisitors,slavers, just to name a few.... Hmmmm, possibilities!

AT&T sold off some of the old comm bunkers, enter Morrow Comm!









































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