YaATW2KT: The Second Mexican-American War

[RN7]

Originally Posted by Olefin

And that is why they brought Soviet Division Cuba along for the ride - i.e. to have people who had the tanks and the ability to take out M1A1 tankst

What type of tanks and ATGM's was Soviet Division Cuba using? A T-72 tank with a 125mm gun cannot defeat the frontal armour of an any M1 Abrams, even with an armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot with depleted uranium round. Only the very latest Soviet anti-tank missiles would even damage yet alone defeat an M1A1.

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by RN7

This is the problem with the AMX-13. Its not a tank, and it could be defeated by even a heavy machine gun.

I think that's a point in its favour in this particular scenario where we're looking for something that's not overpowered and that the Mexicans might plausibly have bought.

Originally Posted by Olefin

FYI has anyone else read Trial By Fire - Harold Coyle's book about a US Mexico war?

Yes, but it was a long, long time ago so I don't really remember any of the details.

[dragoon500ly]

Originally Posted by Rainbow Six

Yes, but it was a long, long time ago so I don't really remember any of the details.

If I remember correctly, didn't the author use a Nicaraguan armor brigade equipped with T-72s?

[Olefin]

Originally Posted by RN7

What type of tanks and ATGM's was Soviet Division Cuba using? A T-72 tank with a 125mm gun cannot defeat the frontal armour of an any M1 Abrams, even with an armor piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot with depleted uranium round. Only the very latest Soviet anti-tank missiles would even damage yet alone defeat an M1A1.

Per the canon they had T-72's (Red Star Lone Star) - but if I remember right the 49th wasnt an all M1 unit - again have to look at my US Army Vehicle Guide when I get home (unless you have one handy)

[RN7]

Originally Posted by Olefin

Per the canon they had T-72's (Red Star Lone Star) - but if I remember right the 49th wasnt an all M1 unit - again have to look at my US Army Vehicle Guide when I get home (unless you have one handy)

Both 1st and 2nd edition has the 49th armored division with five tank battalions (2 M1A1, 2 M1 and 1 M60A3). The orbat for 2000 has them with 1 M1A1, 8 M1, 4 M60A3, 7 Stingray and 3 LAV-75.