The Project Issue #2 and Seed Caches

[StainlessSteelCynic]

The image that ArmySGT. posted is very telling. That bucket supplies enough seed for a 2 acre plot. Just two acres. According to what else is on the website, that bucket holds 1.8lbs of seed but there are just over 55,000 seeds in that.
So using that as a basis for some really rough estimates, 100 acres would require 2,750,000 seeds so four x 100 acre farms would require 11,000,000 seeds.

Even without that crude info, I think most people would realize that the proposed Pelican case of 1250 seeds is would be hopelessly unable to supply one 100 acre farm for even one year let alone four.
So four farms for four years?
The Project proposal isn't just overly optimistic, it's so ludicrous as to make you laugh. Or cry.

The website that ArmySGT. linked to makes for a much better Project proposal. One bucket of 55,000 seeds for two acres appears to be enough to feed one family with some surplus so to my mind, a Project seed cache would be say, twenty of these 2lb pails (holding 1.8lbs of seed) to give 40 acres of crop. All that for just 40lbs weight and it's not particularly bulky.

If all that crop is kept as seed then (again using rough & optimistic estimates), the next season you could potentially have 80 acres of crop.
Yes it's going to take some time and probably requires the people being helped to be councilled not to eat the crop but if the Players like the rebuilding aspect then that sort of time period is a good tie to the community they're trying to help.

[ArmySGT.]

Farm Pail


https://www.non-hybrid-seeds.com/sp/farm-pack.html

List
https://www.non-hybrid-seeds.com/fmp-var.html

Homestead Pail

https://www.non-hybrid-seeds.com/sp/homestead-pack.html

List
https://www.non-hybrid-seeds.com/hp-var.html

Livestock Pail


https://www.non-hybrid-seeds.com/sp/livestock-pack.html

[.45cultist]

So a few of those blue drums that can be used as rain barrel full of repackaged seeds should work.

[mmartin798]

The 55-gallon blue rain barrel might be the best form factor for the original intent of the cache. You need just shy of 15 of them to hold the required number of seeds. Spread that over 16 barrels, and you have one barrel per 100 acre farm year. That way, each barrel will have enough empty space for educational material, like planting and growing guides, preservation techniques and a cookbook with balanced nutritional plans for the plants grown.

[rcaf_777]

I go with the Pelican 1630 M.O.B. Case for the seeds and education material, and have 55-gallon blue barrel packed with a crop irrigation kit.

https://www.earlysgarden.com/compone...t2-700x700.jpg

[Matt W]

I'm REALLY not comfortable with the idea that the Project could store sufficient seeds for several farms. Would it not be more plausible to have enough seeds for lots of vegetable gardens? That way, the Project could provide a way for people to obtain the necessary micro-nutrients and vitamins

This might be an interesting possibility

http://www.carbon.org/catalog/pub/disasterkit.htm

[cosmicfish]

Does it really matter? Barring some exceptional technique, the team should know when they wake up and discover the year that these seeds are no longer viable. I wouldn't waste too much time on an irrelevant set of crates that should be immediately abandoned.

[mmartin798]

Originally Posted by Matt W

I'm REALLY not comfortable with the idea that the Project could store sufficient seeds for several farms. Would it not be more plausible to have enough seeds for lots of vegetable gardens? That way, the Project could provide a way for people to obtain the necessary micro-nutrients and vitamins

This might be an interesting possibility

http://www.carbon.org/catalog/pub/disasterkit.htm

Is it the word farm that is the problem? I am not talking about a monocropping mega farm. From the start I assumed a farm practicing conservation agricultural, which includes growing a variety of crops, rotating them, and other sustainable practices. This is why there are packets of many varieties of seeds in the cache rather than large sacks of a single crop.