OT: I would avoid Mexico for the time being right now....

[theDevil]

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131043

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...or-Israel.html

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...estinians-did/

http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek

here it is

[Mohoender]

Thanks. Nothing in french or on it in any french news. We focus on the flu and on Carla Bruni/Letizia Ortiz.

Of course, if France was Russia, no journalist would ever be executed, guess why.

[pmulcahy11b]

I just got back from my doctor's office (don't worry, it's just a sinus infection), and she told me that she's already had one confirmed case of swine flu in her office.

[Jason Weiser]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

I just got back from my doctor's office (don't worry, it's just a sinus infection), and she told me that she's already had one confirmed case of swine flu in her office.

Loverly...I heard the WHO's not so much worried about the lethality of this bug..but how fast it gets around...In any case, they have a six point alert level scale, and they're considering going to 4-5 on their alert status. What that means, got me? But, if people start dying outside Mexico? All bets are off.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Jason Weiser

Loverly...I heard the WHO's not so much worried about the lethality of this bug..but how fast it gets around...In any case, they have a six point alert level scale, and they're considering going to 4-5 on their alert status. What that means, got me? But, if people start dying outside Mexico? All bets are off.

Just before I left this morning, the news said that this swine flu has gotten as far around the world as New Zealand (1 confirmed case). That's the downside of being able to be anywhere in the world by air travel in 12 hours.

[Mohoender]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

Just before I left this morning, the news said that this swine flu has gotten as far around the world as New Zealand (1 confirmed case). That's the downside of being able to be anywhere in the world by air travel in 12 hours.

I agree that's why I would say it hasn't spread anywhere outside of Mexico (almost Mexico City alone). However, we have brought it as far as New Zealand.

An interesting comment on the french news yesterday was that at least one of our journalist is taking that opportunity to make the Russians appear as the bad guys again. How?

Simple:
Moscow put a ban on any agricultural product from Mexico and does systematic health check on people coming from that area. For our journalist that is, of course, a great proof of how liberties are restraint in Russia (he didn't say Soviet Union but that was close). Then, his next question implied that our government should be taking similar measures (perfectly democratic this time). Hopefully, the scientist who was participating had a fair answer: Russia has always been drastic on health issue and that is one of their bright side. Moreover, they don't import anything from Mexico and, therefore, that decision is no big deal.

Of course, I'm slightly exagerating but not that much.

[TiggerCCW UK]

There have been a couple of suspected cases in the republic as well. Test results due back soon.

[theDevil]

it is said that there has been 40 confirmed in usa, but the official number is 20, all in the new york area.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/0...nal/index.html

ofcourse confirmed and reported are two different things...

i would not worry, just another n5h1 paranoia scare tactic, wonder what all our goverments are doing with their left hand as they feed us, the public, this paranoia crap with their right hand, have I mentioned that i am a conspiracy nut... ...oh yeah i have...

still no big leap in the death rate though, its now at 103, BUT the official number of confirmed death by n1h1 has still not been released, and still they (the deaths) are all located in mexico...

But as we are glued to the screen watching this news unravel, who knows what kind of propositions our governments are "secretly"(as under covers of other, more "important", news) agreeing on, just like the "doctrine for joint nuclear operation" which startet to form early in 2002 and are now in effect, without alot of hubbub from the public as we where all glued to the tube in horror watching the 911 pictures over and over, then again watching the brave men and women bringing democracy to iraq... ...cant help thinking about what is happening now...

...did i mention i am a concpiracy nut :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrin...ear_Operations

still i see no cause for alarm, more concerned for the planet Niburu that is creepingly, slowly, closing in on us...

[headquarters]

you got to admit they look " ot " ,non?

Originally Posted by Mohoender

Thanks. Nothing in french or on it in any french news. We focus on the flu and on Carla Bruni/Letizia Ortiz.

Of course, if France was Russia, no journalist would ever be executed, guess why.

[headquarters]

There is of course the BBCs "SURVIVORS" to check out if you want a dramatized account . ( Outside that of the press that is - I am not sure what way to lean on this one - is the attention the media gets from publishing omnious reports the key factor in the vague information about the possibl e lethality or are there few facts known as of now? Or is it that maybe it isnt that dangerous -then why arnt they saying that ? )

[theDevil]

...is the attention the media gets from publishing omnious reports the key factor in the vague information about the possibl e lethality or are there few facts known as of now? Or is it that maybe it isnt that dangerous -then why arnt they saying that ?

they are saying that it is not that bad, according to different people in the medical profesion: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8022102.stm

i think also the news organisations knows this, but have a rather "if people turns the tube on to watch more scary pandemic telly, why not go with the flow" mentality going.

also, it is not disinformation, the way the media is spinning this, as there will be no definitely numbers, or cause for real alarm before a couple of weeks have past, in the meanwhile they can go at it from any angle they want to.

The sad fact is that if a news broadcaster ad said something like "it is going to be okay, the medical society says" then the audience would switch over to kbcs-tv`s latest police chase from the chopper point of view.

[pmulcahy11b]

Honestly, at this stage of the game, the biggest problem is panic. Already here in San Antonio, the emergency rooms are getting clogged with everyone who has a sniffle.

[Mohoender]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

Honestly, at this stage of the game, the biggest problem is panic. Already here in San Antonio, the emergency rooms are getting clogged with everyone who has a sniffle.

It slowly starts around here as well. Again the media have a fair hand into this. At last I became curious and went to the OMS website, it was interesting.

There is no pandemic so far. However, they estimates that the risk is increasing (that's why they went from stage 3 to stage 4). Funny, it works exactly as Defcon in the movie "Wargame".

In France, since yesterday the information has become contradictory at best: swine flu, other flu, mexican flu, mistery flu... The OMS clearly identify it as H1N1. Hopefully, we had a fair report this morning (at 10.00 am when no one is watching).

It killed no one outside of Mexico so far but it's spreading fairly fast. It was unusual as it hit young healthy people. However, that is not exceptional at all. That happened in US in 1976, I think, at Fort Dix where it killed a soldier. I'm too young too remember but I found amusing how history as a tendency to repeat itself.

It seems that only oseltamivir is having an action on it. Of course our media are not telling this.

Just go and have a look for yourself: http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/en/index.html

I'm not especially anti-media but I keep repeating that they are only a starting point. What is great today is that we have a direct access to many informations. As a result we can cross our infos.