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12-25-2018, 04:17 PM
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Also, as part of the regular equipment available to field Teams and at supply bases there should be solar panels and small wind mills with AC and DC converters, paired with deep cycle marine batteries (or some ultratech equivalent). A small town without power can be immensely improved just by having enough power to run a radio and refrigerate medicines and important provisions.
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12-26-2018, 08:40 AM
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So solar panels, batteries, windmill generators, perhaps multi-fuel generators, and here's a thought, since gasoline cannot be stored for long periods of time, stocks of fuel stabilizers and perhaps some nanotech that can "clean" up old stocks of gasoline and restore to something useful.
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12-26-2018, 08:52 AM
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More likely a micro refinery to crack the bad gas and diesel into lighter hydrocarbons again. I'm thinking micro brewery for fuel here.
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12-26-2018, 10:49 AM
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Based on what my limited searches have turned up, I believe that we are looking at perhaps 2-3 micro units and maybe one kick-sized unit. Thoughts?
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12-26-2018, 02:33 PM
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Here's an actual "skid-mounted" refinery: http://www.peiyangchem.com/modular-r...-refinery.html
There are a couple of options that I can't quite sort out there from their website, but the nice picture of nine 40' ocean cargo containers has weights:
total: 70,000 kg (suspiciously round!). This is probably their MR5 refinery, which has a capacity of 500 barrels per day (crude oil input), requires 100 kilowatts of power, takes 4 months to assemble, covers one or two acres once assembled. The "user" will also have to clear and level the refinery site, build roads, provide a lot of concrete for foundations, sources of water for cooling and fire-fighting, provide buildings (control, lab, shop, office, etc.; most probably converted from the ocean cargo containers once emptied), storage tanks or pipelines for crude oil and the various products, a truck loading rack, electrical power supply, area lighting, fire protection system including hydrants, compressed air supply, compressed nitrogen supply, and water treatment (or just dump it, if you're that kind of villain). Also the listed components do NOT include the tools, cranes, scaffolding, etc. to assemble the refinery. Thus for a Morrow Project "refinery in boxes", you might add 11 ocean cargo containers as follows:
... so a total of 20 containers. The company states in their literature, "The unit allows a single operator to restart the plant from a cold start in less than four hours and have the plant in full operation." -- this kind of implies not a lot of staff on-site once it's running. Oil refineries do NOT like to be shut down -- if everything cools down you get heavy, cold sludge in all your pipes! 500 barrels per day of crude oil becomes 37,000 liters of gasoline, 22,000 liters of diesel, 7,500 liters of kerosene, and various other petro-chem products. For the Morrow Project, three big engineering teams would have to participate in getting this going, presuming the civil economy hadn't recovered to provide these functions:
A two-axle semi-trailer tanker might hold 5,000 gallons (19,000 liters); so (in very rough terms) if all export is by trailer, the refinery would send out two trailers of gasoline, one of diesel, and half of a tanker of jet fuel. Thoughts? -- Michael B.
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12-26-2018, 03:23 PM
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I found a page on a really small "refinery in a box" for third-world nations:
http://www.almonerpetrogas.com/Mini_Refineries It looks like a lot of it fits in one prefab "butler building", plus a cooling system that looks a lot like a large shallow pool of water. They state only 1 or 2 workers are needed to operate it. They give capacity as 900 tons per month per skid; a metric ton of crude oil is about 7 barrels, so that's about 200 barrels production per day. The plant capacity is given as 200 barrels a day on up. The equipment is shipped in standard 40' ocean cargo containers; if one skid = one ocean cargo container, then the smallest plant is all in one container. So: for just one container you get 40% of the refining capacity of a 9 container plant; but I suspect this one-container refinery is less safe, produces products not up to the same specifications, won't last as long, and more environmentally harmful. But: much smaller. If the Project "stocked" these, they'd probably have 4 or 5 containers: one for the refinery itself, and 4 with all the other parts that the "end user" would be expected to provide pre-Atomic War, and the tools for assembly. Site selection might just be "find a surviving big building near a river or lake and a supply of crude oil." -- Michael B.
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12-26-2018, 04:58 PM
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Looks like the micro-refinery in a box is the best choice so far.
Still, with the number of containers (4-5), it seems more likely for a Power Generation (Base) Team, than for the mobile teams.
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