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Old 11-07-2020, 08:38 AM
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My thread on rations expanded into other aspects of food preservation.

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Old 11-07-2020, 05:52 PM
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So what would the MP teams have in their food stores? The best solution I could come up with is freeze dried meals. Mountain House has been making food stuffs and have mastered the art of it. Once freeze dried, double packaged and protected from O2 and the elements these stores can last decades. The tradition MRE only has at most 10 years under ideal conditions. Dehydrated meals may go 20 years as well. I know that recently a 30 plus year old can from Mountain House was opened and sampled and had no taste or spoilage issues. So if stored in a bolthole/ bunker or cache with the atmosphere stabilized, I could easily see these going for the duration of the teams sleep. They could easily have several weeks worth of meals stowed on their vehicle and even several months worth stowed at various cache points. Of course there is the water issue, but filters and storage take care of that. You can easily store 30-50 gallons of water for drinking and food prep on your vehicle. If water is an issue, there are ways to make water as well. At a company I use to work for they had a water tank that drew its water from the atmosphere via humidity. It could do several gallons a day. It was pretty cool. Even had a filter system and a UV light in the storage tank to stop bacterial contamination. I do believe they use similar tech on the ISS as well. A small version could be installed in a vehicle because the crew would be giving off moisture from sweating and breathing. it would add up collectively and would provide a small bonus of guaranteed safe water for any needs.
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Old 11-07-2020, 06:47 PM
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I'm still checking into this, but there are claims that Mountain House food lacks essential vitamins, minerals and nutrients. One of their competitors claims this why there food lasts so long. Should prove intresting.
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Old 11-08-2020, 11:18 AM
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I have heard that freeze drying retains many of the nutrients in food.(I know someone that owns a freeze dryer). I will have to research this further as well. But if you presume that every MP team has some sort of survival/ outdoor skill training they could quickly integrate wild edibles into their diet to stretch out food supplies and add nutrition. Also if that is the case, a multivitamin could be added to the meal kit (Russian MREs often have them) to supplement the potential loss and vitamin deficiency related illnesses. Now you have me curious about it!!
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Old 11-08-2020, 06:26 PM
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It is possible that MP rations are not only sealed like an MRE, but irradiated as well. Fresh meat that is irradiated has a room temperature shelf life of about 2 years. Fresh vegetables about 6 years. It wouldn't take much handwavium to get those rations to survive 10-20 years that way, which would be the esitmated time assuming Prime Base and Back Up Prime Base (need a catchy name for that) remained operational as planned.
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Old 11-08-2020, 08:44 PM
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So what would be the half life of any meat stored at prime base? Assuming it was irradiated by the nuke? Also does it glow in the dark? Or is it now Blue Meat?
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Old 11-10-2020, 06:39 AM
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... assuming Prime Base and Back Up Prime Base (need a catchy name for that) ...
Group I originally played with (Germany circa 1986) usually referred to Backup Prime as "pis aller".
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