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Old 02-21-2021, 02:16 PM
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Put this up on the general thread too - love to see more material for the 4th issue

FYI to show how much interest there is in the fanzine - downloads to date of the three issues at drivethrurpg.com

As of Feb 20, 2021

No. 1 Grand Totals: 1890

No. 2 Grand Totals: 1874

No. 3 Grand Totals: 1096 (only out since January 28th)
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Old 02-21-2021, 07:43 PM
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It wouldn't be terribly long, but would you have any interest in some of the research I've done on the state of nuclear weapons delivery in the early 1960s (for my own Twilight 1964 but applicable to anyone considering doing something in that time frame)?
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Something I'd like to see is about how the remaining air forces of the world are coping.

I know it's not canonical - but it is, actually - but there'd still be FWAC flying. And rotary aircraft. If the turbines on the M1 can keep turning on Alcohol, so can the turbines in the Apache, just for example.

But back to fixed-wing...

If fuels other than distilled alcohol are being made (and they are), then AvGas, which is kerosene, mostly (in the case of JP grades used by the US military), is as well. I remember reading where air units that are attritted down by 45% or so are considered "combat ineffective". Assuming this to be true, there still have to be a couple of hundred combat aircraft on the NATO side and an equal if not larger amount on the WarPac side, still capable of combat.

Fuel for aircraft isn't nonexistent, it's merely hard to come by.

Shit, you could do a whole adventure where your team is hard at work helping to secure a port somewhere in S. Europe to try and get avgas being shipped from the M-E across the Med. to the European theater.

You'd have rebuilt/repaired refineries in the US, too, providing fuel for whatever birds were still at home. In the fanciful "Mexico invading the US" scenario, the area where Davis-Monthan AFB is, is part of the occupied territories, but if a team were to secure the area long enough to bring in salvage teams, etc., I know there'd be birds they could fly out of there.

But I also realize that's skating dangerously close to the US coming out OK which is not what many people want out of the game, so.
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Old 02-22-2021, 10:26 AM
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In the fanciful "Mexico invading the US" scenario, the area where Davis-Monthan AFB is, is part of the occupied territories, but if a team were to secure the area long enough to bring in salvage teams, etc., I know there'd be birds they could fly out of there.
To add a wrinkle to that potential adventure, if the aircraft at DM were flyable, the Mexicans would probably be flying them (and if they didn't have the wherewithal to do so, they'd probably destroy them to keep them out of the hands of the hated Yanquis).

I reckon the A-10s and F-16s there would have already been transferred to a foreign combat theater before the Mexican invasion, though. But perhaps there are a few C-130s and utility aircraft still flying there.
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Old 02-22-2021, 11:37 AM
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May be more likely to destroy them. I doubt the Mexicans are in any better shape to keep any significant amount of aircraft flying than the Americans are. Then again, if they recover anything, it will most likely be some C-130s.
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Old 02-22-2021, 12:37 PM
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The Mexicans did fly some aircraft that were at storage at Davis-Monthan and may at the least have been able to get spares they needed to keep their planes going.

And there are refineries in the US going - even the one mentioned in Howling Wilderness as only being at 1 percent of capacity could still turn out a hell of a lot of fuel that planes need - and as pointed out previously what the military was running on was jet fuel not gas or diesel - so the issue of avgas is really only an issue for prop planes not for jets

and the latest issue of the fanzine had information on the aircraft in the Middle East - both canon (planes in East Africa) and a mix of canon and improvement on what there was that was stated in the RDF (Middle East)
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Replacement parts are the big issue with aircraft, which also require a LOT of maintenance.
There was a rather indepth discussion some time ago about aircraft on this forum. One of the points that has stuck in my mind against there being many aircraft is that if a tank breaks down (or suffers damage), it stops. If a plane breaks down while in motion, it doesn't stop.....until it hits the ground.
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