OT: Putin's War in Ukraine

[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man 1966

I'm beginning to think that Russia would lose a war against the PA, OH and/or WV National Guard(s)

I think so too. I ran training ranges with the 99th ARCOM and those boys can shoot. Hell, in PA, the first day of buck season is a school holiday. It is said that there are 2 MILLION hunters in the woods on the opening day of deer season. In addition, most of those Reserve and NG units have worked together for YEARS! They are NOT a bunch of conscripts with a year's experience or training.

Also, many Reserve units have members that do the same jobs in the civilian world (ie Transport units with CDL truckers in them, Medical units populated by nurses and X-ray techs, Construction units with welders, ironworkers, etc... in them). This gives US reserve units a knowledge base that they would never receive from straight military service.

[Nowhere Man 1966]

Originally Posted by swaghauler

I think so too. I ran training ranges with the 99th ARCOM and those boys can shoot. Hell, in PA, the first day of buck season is a school holiday. It is said that there are 2 MILLION hunters in the woods on the opening day of deer season. In addition, most of those Reserve and NG units have worked together for YEARS! They are NOT a bunch of conscripts with a year's experience or training.

Also, many Reserve units have members that do the same jobs in the civilian world (ie Transport units with CDL truckers in them, Medical units populated by nurses and X-ray techs, Construction units with welders, ironworkers, etc... in them). This gives US reserve units a knowledge base that they would never receive from straight military service.

99th ARCOM, you must be near Pittsburgh. I'm from there and still live somewhat close, 50 miles WSW of Pittsburgh in Ohio on the river in between Steubenville and Wheeling, WV. I remember one time I was behind a Deuce and a Half where a couple of folding tables fell out. I went on the street, picked them up and Mom and I drove to the command center. I went to the front door and got a Colonial, Captain and Sergeant help me take them into the building. They thanked me for returning the tables.

[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man 1966

99th ARCOM, you must be near Pittsburgh. I'm from there and still live somewhat close, 50 miles WSW of Pittsburgh in Ohio on the river in between Steubenville and Wheeling, WV. I remember one time I was behind a Deuce and a Half where a couple of folding tables fell out. I went on the street, picked them up and Mom and I drove to the command center. I went to the front door and got a Colonial, Captain and Sergeant help me take them into the building. They thanked me for returning the tables.

I live 100 miles north of Pittsburgh and 40 miles south of the North Shore (Lake Erie). The 99th ARCOM stretches from southern New York down to northern West Virginia and was attached to the First Army.

[swaghauler]

A panel discussion on the Operations In Ukraine by the Modern War Institute:

https://youtu.be/zXEvbVoDiU0

Swag

[pmulcahy11b]

The sad thing is, regardless of what happens, from a decades-long insurgency to a NATO intervention (I think a no-fly zone is going to happen, regardless of Biden's words to the contrary) -- the sad thing is that Ukraine is going to be a mass of rubble for decades, dependent on outside help.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

The sad thing is, regardless of what happens, from a decades-long insurgency to a NATO intervention (I think a no-fly zone is going to happen, regardless of Biden's words to the contrary) -- the sad thing is that Ukraine is going to be a mass of rubble for decades, dependent on outside help.

If Ukraine is admitted to the EU there will be a flood of recovery funds pouring in. It'll be a reconstruction bonanza. Nothing will bring back those killed and Russia's reputation will be in ruins for a decade or more, but if there's an intervention and the Russians are kicked out, there might be some good fortune in Ukraine's future.

[Jason]

Ukraine is already suggesting they get at least get a portion of the $400 billion in frozen Russian assets to rebuild.