Out of Mothballs: Obsolescent Weaponry on the T2k Battlefield

[Raellus]

Ironic, indeed.

First introduced in 1950, the AZP S-60 57mm anti-aircraft gun is currently seeing combat in Ukraine, most often against ground targets. It would definitely see a return to duty in the Twilight War.

I can easily imagine a scenario were an AZP S-60 57mm anti-aircraft gun shoots down an AN-2 Colt.

[Raellus]

Is this old-timey canon functional, or just for show? If it's the former, that has to set some sort of out-of-mothballs record.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...int-in-ukraine

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[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Is this old-timey canon functional, or just for show? If it's the former, that has to set some sort of out-of-mothballs record.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...int-in-ukraine

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Every day Ukraine resembles a Twilight2000 campaign more and more. Europe didn't "demill" their stuff like the US did. That cannon could be operational but I'm betting the Ukrainians put it there (as a scavenged weapon system) and not the Russians.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Is this old-timey canon functional, or just for show? If it's the former, that has to set some sort of out-of-mothballs record.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...int-in-ukraine

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It looks like a toy. For that matter, the soldier looks like a toy. Note the uniform gray color in the two, and notice the lumpishness. Someone took a joke picture.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

It looks like a toy. For that matter, the soldier looks like a toy. Note the uniform gray color in the two, and notice the lumpishness. Someone took a joke picture.

Could be. I have seen any follow-up either way.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/39228/...ibious-vehicle

I wonder if these massive LARC-LX amphibs might have been dusted off and used in Europe- perhaps to cross the Vistula- during T2k.

Paul, I poked around on your site for this one and didn't find it, but I wasn't sure which category to look in.

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[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Raellus

B]LARC-LX[/B] amphibs might have been dusted off and used in Europe- perhaps to cross the Vistula- during T2k.

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I didn't do it; it's not on my site. I had to look it up in Bing to find out what it was; ah well, add it to the list. (That's how the Bombers got in there; they were on my list.)

[Raellus]

The OT-810 was basically a lightly modified, Czech-made Sd.Kfz. 251 half-track APC with a Tatra diesel engine. According to Wikipedia, about 1,500 OT-810s were manufactured between 1958-1962, and the last examples weren't removed from Czech army depots until 1995. I imagine they would have seen action during the Twilight War.

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[chico20854]

Originally Posted by Raellus

The OT-810 was basically a lightly modified, Czech-made Sd.Kfz. 251 half-track APC with a Tatra diesel engine. According to Wikipedia, about 1,500 OT-810s were manufactured between 1958-1962, and the last examples weren't removed from Czech army depots until 1995. I imagine they would have seen action during the Twilight War.

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photo
Recalled reservists of the 24th Motor Rifle Division by their OT-810 APC before invading Austria, Summer 1997.
(from my Czechoslovak Vehicle Guide)

[Vespers War]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Could be. I have seen any follow-up either way.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/39228/...ibious-vehicle

I wonder if these massive LARC-LX amphibs might have been dusted off and used in Europe- perhaps to cross the Vistula- during T2k.

Paul, I poked around on your site for this one and didn't find it, but I wasn't sure which category to look in.

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Dusted off? Four of them were still in service in 2001. They hadn't seen combat service since the '70's, but they were still in commission with the 309th Transportation Company, 11th Transportation Battalion (based out of Fort Story, Virginia Beach, Virginia). There are at least four survivors in museums, one in Florida, one in Virginia, one in Tennessee, and one in the Netherlands.

[swaghauler]

Check out ADAM SOMETHING'S YouTube channel for photos of this...

The Russians are sending a train loaded with T-62 MBTs to Ukraine! I wonder how much ammo they have stockpiled? There's a certain irony in the fact that Russia is now using a tank on the battlefield that was introduced to the world BEFORE I WAS BORN!

[Vespers War]

Originally Posted by swaghauler

Check out ADAM SOMETHING'S YouTube channel for photos of this...

The Russians are sending a train loaded with T-62 MBTs to Ukraine! I wonder how much ammo they have stockpiled? There's a certain irony in the fact that Russia is now using a tank on the battlefield that was introduced to the world BEFORE I WAS BORN!

I had looked into the ammo when I saw the news, and Nexter in France was manufacturing 115mm APFSDS-T ammunition at least up to 2018, and presumably they weren't the only manufacturer. It's still moderately well-represented among former client states of the Soviets, with Syria and Egypt both having quite a few, and North Korea's Ch'onma-ho being derived from the T-62 (although the newest Ch'onma-ho V uses a knock-off of the 125mm gun instead of the 115mm).