New America

[ToughOmbres]

Good points from all as usual.

CB-when you mention "stolen from armories" do you mean "stolen" (wink wink, off inventory but actually surreptitiously supplied) or actually stolen outright?

[castlebravo92]

Originally Posted by ToughOmbres

Good points from all as usual.

CB-when you mention "stolen from armories" do you mean "stolen" (wink wink, off inventory but actually surreptitiously supplied) or actually stolen outright?

Yes and yes ;-).

I'm stealing / modifying a narrative arc in James Ellroy's Underworld USA Trilogy to build a deeper narrative arc for New America / Carl Hughes where a neo-fascist faction within the CIA clandestinely supplies extremist right-wing groups with weapons starting in the late 60s / early 70s when anti-war social upheaval is at it's apex with the intent of having a domestic anti-communist cadre if a social revolution occurred and official US organizations were co-opted or nullified by Marxists.

Because it's a faction and not the entire CIA, it's entirely off-books. The CIA and Hughes use drug money (in the same manner that they did to fund the arming of the Contras), and leverage facilitated theft to supply the militias.

[bash]

One option would be for Hughes to start up a trucking company to do some covert smuggling of drugs and weapons and other New America prepper aligned supplies. They'd be able to unofficially but officially move all sorts of stuff around and load up warehouses/barns/etc with supplies while nominally shipping consumer goods. Areas with a strong presence of Gold Ring Trucking would be areas of stronger New America influence post-TDM.

While I largely agree that New America wouldn't pose an existential threat to either MilGov or CivGov, they can still be a major power bloc in regions just by being the best supplied and coordinated group in an area. If New America is even slightly more palatable than an out and out gang running a town they'll get that town's support. So long as they can slow walk their full fascism and slavery until they run a bunch of towns in an area it would be too late to throw off the yoke.

Once they go full fascist slavers though both MilGov and CivGov will be able to put aside their differences long enough to retake areas run by NA. At the very least they won't shoot at the other when they're fighting NA forces.

[ToughOmbres]

Originally Posted by castlebravo92

Yes and yes ;-).

I'm stealing / modifying a narrative arc in James Ellroy's Underworld USA Trilogy to build a deeper narrative arc for New America / Carl Hughes where a neo-fascist faction within the CIA clandestinely supplies extremist right-wing groups with weapons starting in the late 60s / early 70s when anti-war social upheaval is at it's apex with the intent of having a domestic anti-communist cadre if a social revolution occurred and official US organizations were co-opted or nullified by Marxists.

Because it's a faction and not the entire CIA, it's entirely off-books. The CIA and Hughes use drug money (in the same manner that they did to fund the arming of the Contras), and leverage facilitated theft to supply the militias.

It certainly works for the T2k world. Since we're dealing with alternate history/reality I always thought the original GDW treatment of Hughes was quite good FTR.