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Old 05-30-2018, 08:13 AM
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If the KFS had an inkling I'd imagine they'd trade for dried hops for beer though not sure how far south they grow. Thst said its very labor intensive to get Hops which might be an avenue for slave trade even past that quality grains such as wheat out of Western New York or even apples might be an option as well.
Over 74% of the hope in the US are grown in Orege, Washington and Idaho.

I truly don't see the KFS having to import much in the way of foodstuffs, rather i would expect them to import raw materials to feed their factories. This would allow them to trade finished product to their neighbors. Things like trade rifles and their ammunition, cookware, cloth, tools, even batteries and radios (carefully preset to KFS frequencies and, perhaps, equipped to monitor and record conversations and transmit them at selected times). It may even be in the best interest of the KFS to sell steamboats to carefully vetted groups.
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Old 05-30-2018, 01:00 PM
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The KFS are probably the only truly industrial power in the Morrow Project World, so firstly they can trade wonderous treasures from another world.

Assuming they have a pharmaceutical plant; then antibiotics and painkillers would be the difference between life and death.

Modern ammunition sold to groups such as Badges or maybe even Maxwell's Militia would turn them into loyal mercenaries. Even if these guys can make their own ammo and smokeless powders, it wouldn't be as efficient as a truck full from KFS stores.

In exchange the KFC could ask for whatever they wanted. Everything from luxury goods and food stuffs to whatever. Probably a particularly useful thing would be skilled slaves.

In this dark future there aren't any computers, few libraries or universities. So a literate slave with specialist skills in say for example agriculture would be equivalent to updating your software patch.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:36 PM
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Over 74% of the hope in the US are grown in Orege, Washington and IDahl.
That's true however, as a native new Yorker I can attest to a resurgence in hops.even past that there are many feral varieties that have persisted. New York also has massive salt deposits though I'm not sure on the mineral wealth the KFS has access to.

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Bauxite from central Arkansas (largest deposit), southern Alabama and southern Georgia, and Spottswood, VA. All of the ore around Chattanooga, TN has already been excavated over the past 150 years. If the KFS wants aluminum they have to deal with one of these locations.
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Bauxite from central Arkansas (largest deposit), southern Alabama and southern Georgia, and Spottswood, VA. All of the ore around Chattanooga, TN has already been excavated over the past 150 years. If the KFS wants aluminum they have to deal with one of these locations.
Or they could just trade for "scrap" aluminium? There's an anecdote about the average landfill having more aluminium that a bauxite mine. (all those Coke cans and beer kegs). Also, if someone finds the wreck of an old aircraft, the KFS would be happy to buy it
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Old 05-31-2018, 11:36 AM
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Or they could just trade for "scrap" aluminium? There's an anecdote about the average landfill having more aluminium that a bauxite mine. (all those Coke cans and beer kegs). Also, if someone finds the wreck of an old aircraft, the KFS would be happy to buy it
The scrap aluminum makes more sense. Even though the KFS has reliable energy, it takes a great deal more electricity to make aluminum from bauxite then to recycle scrap aluminum. Why use that much power when the scrap should be rather plentiful.
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Old 05-31-2018, 04:14 PM
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I imagine scrap metal as a whole would be a huge trade good especially metal that's clean of radioactivity. After all,some of the best 'mine's in the form of old cities got nuked pretty hard and even 150 years later may very well be still be pretty hot.
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I imagine scrap metal as a whole would be a huge trade good especially metal that's clean of radioactivity. After all,some of the best 'mine's in the form of old cities got nuked pretty hard and even 150 years later may very well be still be pretty hot.
Unless you are in a crater of a surface or subsurface blast, most common metals will not be that radioactive after 150 years. The most likely isotopes activated in iron have a half-life of 2.7 years or less. In copper, the half-lives is measured in hours. With the exception of one very rare isotope of aluminum, the half-lives are measured in second or nanoseconds. While there is going to be some hotter spots, by and large scavenging metal should be safe.
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