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Old 09-30-2012, 12:47 AM
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Default Did anyone catch Revolution?

While I like the idea the show has been unable to grab a hold of me. Too cliche, bad acting, and plot holes. It does have some nice visuals and I like the twists at the end but I will only give it 1-2 more tries before abandoning it.
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Its like the series Last Resort. I can't see them going past one season with it.
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How about Last Resort? I've missed that one too but considered catching up online.
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While I like the idea the show has been unable to grab a hold of me. Too cliche, bad acting, and plot holes. It does have some nice visuals and I like the twists at the end but I will only give it 1-2 more tries before abandoning it.
I'm right there with you.

I forgot to record the premier of Last Resort. I hope they replay it soon- I've tried watching shows online but my internet connection doesn't handle that sort of thing very well.
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schizophrenic hollywood writing

Wants to be Hunger Games, Dawsons creek, Escape from New York, Erol Flynn movie, and Jericho.

but in a clean family friendly format.....

This one is gonna crash and burn like the dinosaur time travel one.
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I'm in about the same boat -- everything about the premise of revolution should equal it being one of my favorite shows ever. In execution -- it's just not blowing my socks off.

Last Resort seems much better based on one episode, though its long term prospects do seem questionable.
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Last Resort.

I haven't watched it but, I think it is up on Hulu.
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I'm watching Last Resort now online. It's too Hollywood but I like it better than Revolution. I'm already liking some characters.

As for Revolution after two episodes I can't feel anyone. It is trying to be too many shows at once. We can be pretty sure the outage was manmade and things can be restored. I would have been content with "it happened" and the world has changed. Use the world as the background and focus on story and characters.

Just like in battlestar galatica is wasn't about space, just took place there.
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I caught the first episode of Revolution. I was rather non-plussed by it. It didn't wow me like it really should have, considering the setting. The actors aren't at all compelling. Too many cliches already. It does feel like a hodge-podge of various shows all lumped together. It tries to do too much and doesn't do any of them very well. Such a shame, as it had such promise.

I guess that same could be said of that Terra Nova.

I only caught the last part of Last Resort. It has potential. Potential to be a good story. Potential to turn into a massive soap opera. The premise is good, but it's almost sort of feeling like some other shows I've seen. I'll catch the entire episode soon, rather than just the last half, and then I'll catch the second episode before I make up my mind about it. It didn't truly grab me, but neither did it dissuade me from watching more, like Revolution did.

Sadly, I agree that both of these shows will like be one season wonders. A lot of hype, little substance, questionable acting on the parts of some (some of the people are good actors, others obviously aren't), and lack of real focus to bring out real character of the show, will probably be their downfall.
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Agreement of the specific deficiencies with Revolution. Another overall problem I'm having is that the show is seriously repressing the very, very dark nature of its premise, which would have involved the same level of mass starvation, famine, and occasional resort to cannibalism the characterizes SM Stirling's similar Dies the Fire series. We do see some of the resultant political nastiness, but I just don't see characters or a culture depicted that have been through an apocalypse. Mostly the sole nod to the setting is the visuals of abandoned stuff over grown with vegetation.

I'm guessing that's deliberate -- dark and apocalyptic didn't test well with focus groups or the network didn't like it or something. And I'm guessing that will be the death of the show, too -- The dark and gritty "reality" of shows like the Walking Dead and Battlestar Galactica are what made them appealing.
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Agreement of the specific deficiencies with Revolution. Another overall problem I'm having is that the show is seriously repressing the very, very dark nature of its premise, which would have involved the same level of mass starvation, famine, and occasional resort to cannibalism the characterizes SM Stirling's similar Dies the Fire series. We do see some of the resultant political nastiness, but I just don't see characters or a culture depicted that have been through an apocalypse. Mostly the sole nod to the setting is the visuals of abandoned stuff over grown with vegetation.

I'm guessing that's deliberate -- dark and apocalyptic didn't test well with focus groups or the network didn't like it or something. And I'm guessing that will be the death of the show, too -- The dark and gritty "reality" of shows like the Walking Dead and Battlestar Galactica are what made them appealing.
I totally agree with this. For me, it starts with the costuming and make-up and stuff. The characters in Revolution are just too well scrubbed and neatly dressed for a post electricity/running water world (15 years in).
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schizophrenic hollywood writing

Wants to be Hunger Games, Dawsons creek, Escape from New York, Erol Flynn movie, and Jericho.

but in a clean family friendly format.....

This one is gonna crash and burn like the dinosaur time travel one.
100% spot on!
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I totally agree with this. For me, it starts with the costuming and make-up and stuff. The characters in Revolution are just too well scrubbed and neatly dressed for a post electricity/running water world (15 years in).
That's my chief complain about the visual aspects of the show. Everyone has pressed form fitting clothes like they are Hollister models or something.
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Didn't we already have Revolution but it was called Dark Angel?

(Jessica Alba is seriously better looking than Giancarlo Esposito).
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Like you say, Dark Angel had Jessica Alba -- even when it got stupid with the lizard/dog/shark/bunny DNA enfused super soldiers and ten thousand year old secret cult in season 2, Jessica Alba in tight outfits roundhouse kicking folks was reason enough to tune in . . .
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I saw it...for about a half an hour. It just didn't hold my interest.
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The studio was screwed up.

The crowd that demands the family friendly format is the Evangelicals.

Having the bad guy be the bible citing christian and the boy from the Hero's family be derisive of that.

couple of million viewers just tuned out.

Six episodes max.
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The one thing I do like about it is that the bad guys are emphatically identified with gun control and disarming the populace -- very subversive stuff for Hollywod.
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Like you say, Dark Angel had Jessica Alba -- even when it got stupid with the lizard/dog/shark/bunny DNA enfused super soldiers and ten thousand year old secret cult in season 2, Jessica Alba in tight outfits roundhouse kicking folks was reason enough to tune in . . .
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Just the mere mention of Jessica Alba in Dark Angel gives me half a mongrel.
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Just the mere mention of Jessica Alba in Dark Angel gives me half a mongrel.
ONLY half!?

What are you? Only half a man!?
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Just the mere mention of Jessica Alba in Dark Angel gives me half a mongrel.
Wha...? Where I'm from, a mongrel is a mangy, flea-bitten dog that has I-don't-know-many breeds' DNA in it...
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Wha...? Where I'm from, a mongrel is a mangy, flea-bitten dog that has I-don't-know-many breeds' DNA in it...
Well, we are talking about Targan here
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LOL! Yes Paul, a mongrel is a mixed-breed dog but in Australia having "half a mongrel" is slang for having a partial erection. And Leg, I did say "mere mention". Actually seeing a photo or video of Jesica Alba is, for me, my own little blue pill.
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Shit!
Now you've gone and done it Sgt! I won't be able to stand up all day now!!!
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Oh my. Bless you, ArmySGT
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Damnit! I just poked a hole in my laptop.
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I'll echo some of the common gripes: Far too clean for the timeline, too much hair gel & swordplay, clichéd and overacted. But I gave it the requisite three episodes and will likely continue watching. I'm just peeved because I figure with JJ Abrams and Favreau behind this I should be more blown away, and instead I'm just kind of meh. But they better hurry it up with the exposition, because I'm not signing up for another 7-season Lindelof wankfest.
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Well I am glad the Patriots are good guys. However Hollywood still can't resist portraying anyone that owns or uses a gun as a sociopath.

May the writers should watch "Jeremiah" more than "Jericho". You know what else is missing? Knives, hand axes, clubs, machetes, even without a handgun just something hefty in your hand when situations get tense is in order here.

Have you noticed any old people? Pack animals? Dairy cows?
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