Favorite Shotgun

[Raellus]

Ditto. What's your favorite shotty?

[pmulcahy11b]

I think the Pancor Jackhammer is the most interesting -- it's not only automatic, you can turn the ammo cassette into an antipersonnel mine!

[Legbreaker]

The Mossberg was the one I selected. Why, because it's the only one from the list I've actually shot (although I think it was the 590).

[Targan]

H&K CAWS. What a concept.

[jimbo4795]

I always wanted to find a way to convert a H & K CAW into a belt-fed support weapon. Mounted on a vehicle's pintle mount, I think it would be a very good, short-range anti-ambush weapon.

[StainlessSteelCynic]

I chose Other because although I would happily pick the Pancor Jackhammer and the HK CAWS, I can't decide between the two although I lean towards the Jackhammer because you didn't need specialist ammunition for it.
While I've had some slight experience with shotguns I have no idea what it was except that it was a friend's under/over trap gun and the only other one I've used was another friend's Winchester Ranger pump-action.

[jester]

Jackahmmer! I read an article about those in the mid 80s and it was just plain cool! And the issue of rounds melting in the chamber from fast firing which the SEALS complained of using their Ithiaca M37s.

As for now with real weapons the Benneli is sweet! And one of my scouts who barely stood 5 feet tall could handle a 12 gauge well enough at the range. As for pump guns, the Remington 870 is good to go! Although I am cool with the 590 too.

And lets not forget the SPAS, it is cool! the only shotgun that can do semi auto and pump!

But for the T2K world, the SPAS! the cool factor, the high mag capacity and ease of use of assorted ammo.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by jester

But for the T2K world, the SPAS! the cool factor, the high mag capacity and ease of use of assorted ammo.

Not to mention that it was used by Arnold in the Terminator movie.

[jester]

Originally Posted by kato13

Not to mention that it was used by Arnold in the Terminator movie.

Despite its use by my boss, I will not hold that against it, its not the weapons fault it was used by an inept leftist fraud.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by jester

Despite its use by my boss, I will not hold that against it, its not the weapons fault it was used by an inept leftist fraud.

Real life Politics aside (as they should probably be on this forum). IMO No one actor had more cool weapons in their movies than Arnold. The Long slide with laser, the M214, the Spas-12 to name just a few.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by jester

Despite its use by my boss, I will not hold that against it, its not the weapons fault it was used by an inept leftist fraud.

I thought Arnie is a Republican? Do you have leftist Republicans? I obviously still have much to learn about US politics.

Oh, and I'm happy to be educated via private message. I'm not looking to start any politically motivated flame wars here.

[Legbreaker]

Originally Posted by kato13

...the M214....

I thought that was the M134?
Same prop as was used in Predator.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

I thought that was the M134?
Same prop as was used in Predator.

Good call.

Nicknamed "Old Painless", a hand-held M134 Minigun is the main weapon of the movie carried by Blain (Jesse Ventura). It has been modded for Commando use with an M60 handguard and a rear pistol grip. The weapon was powered by an electric cable hidden in the actors pants and fired reduced power 7.62x51mm blank rounds to ease the recoil force. It is believed in real life a similar weapon was tested by US special forces in the 1970s but found impractical. Although rumored to be an XM214 'Microgun' which fires the smaller 5.56mm NATO rounds, it is the larger M134 hence the barrel cluster.

source:http://www.imfdb.org/index.php?title...nigun_Handheld

I have seen that in print incorrectly at least three times. Wow even my copy of "Guns Guns Guns" which I revere, got that one wrong.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

I thought that was the M134?
Same prop as was used in Predator.

I thought the weapon in Predator was the M214. It is 5.56mm. Either way a person carrying around and firing from the hip a 6-barrelled gatling gun is a pretty unlikely and crazy idea but the M-134 is 7.62 and I think that firing it without it being mounted on a vehicle or a tripod wouldn't just be unlikely, it would probably be impossible.

Perhaps we should look on the Internet Movie Firearms Database and see if it tells us?

Edit: Just realised that Kato got there first. Thanks, I stand corrected.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Targan

I thought the weapon in Predator was the M214. It is 5.56mm. Either way a person carrying around and firing from the hip a 6-barrelled gatling gun is a pretty unlikely and crazy idea but the M-134 is 7.62 and I think that firing it without it being mounted on a vehicle or a tripod wouldn't just be unlikely, it would probably be impossible.

Perhaps we should look on the Internet Movie Firearms Database and see if it tells us?

Beat you to it

[Legbreaker]

A seriously kick ass weapon if ever there was one, but totally bullshit as far as reality goes.

But how many of us can honestly say we haven't had a moment of munchkinism and WANTED ONE soooo bad it hurt?

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

A seriously kick ass weapon if ever there was one, but totally bullshit as far as reality goes.

Guns^3 calculated the recoil of the 5.56mm version at 95 kilograms. (Slightly less if using AP ammo). As a GM I am thinking that holding it and directing fire of the 7.62mm version would be like benching over 150 kilos. You would also have to be braced against something mighty strong or you would be knocked to the ground.

I only allowed the M214 to be used once in a Dark conspiracy game when a heavy weight boxer had taken two levels of alien cybernetic enhancement for a 12 total strength.

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by jester

And lets not forget the SPAS, it is cool! the only shotgun that can do semi auto and pump!

But for the T2K world, the SPAS! the cool factor, the high mag capacity and ease of use of assorted ammo.

Spas 12 was my favourite ever since I saw it in (I think?) the V1 Small Arms Guide. (If it wasn't there it must have been on Paul's site).

[pmulcahy11b]

You know what we really need? A belt-fed shot-machinegun!

[Raellus]

IIRC, Futureweapons had a piece on a steel-bodied, shotgun that I believe was fully automatic. They had it rigged up to MRAP vehicle mounts and a bomb squad-type robot.

The new Benelli that the Marine Corps is adopting looks seriously sweet but it's a little too new for the v1.0 timeline.

[Matt Wiser]

SPAS-12 and the Benelli semi-auto that Alec Baldwin used in The Getaway remake. Either one is capable of some serious damage.....

[Targan]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

You know what we really need? A belt-fed shot-machinegun!

Then Cyberpunk 2020 is the game for you! IIRC there is a 6-barelled, binary propellant, 10 gauge gatling shotgun in that game called the CLAWS. I think in the description it said that the sound of firing it included notes like tearing metal.

[General Pain]

I must go for :

double barreled sawed off 10gauge shotgun - 1 buck and 1 slug - I usually carry 2 of them. Low bulk, but packs a hell of alot of damage.

the ultimate player-character-slayer - sadly the last time I used it only 1 of the barrels worked - RIP GP -

[simonmark6]

Sawn off 120mm cannon.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by simonmark6

Sawn off 120mm cannon.

Shame they never made the 120mm Flechette round (in the timeline) or you really might have something.

[simonmark6]

What about a bag of nails launched by a powder charge?

[jester]

I'll go with the M198A1 155mm howitzer in the horizontal postion with a beehive round!

TOP THAT SUCKERS!

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by jester

I'll go with the M198A1 155mm howitzer in the horizontal postion with a beehive round!

TOP THAT SUCKERS!

Did they make beehive for the 203mm?

[sglancy12]

I'm going to have to go with the Winchester M1897 Trench gun.

Five round tubular magazine with one in the chamber for six.

Pump shotgun, with an exposed hammer, so you can carry a round in the chamber and easily see whether the weapon is cocked, hence whether the weapon is safe.

Allegedly you can hold the trigger down and work the slide to fire very very fast (but with little accuracy).

You can attach a bayonet, specifically the M1905 Bayonet, which is a good long pig sticker for those times you blunder into someone in the dark.

It has a magazine release button on it that allows the entire tubular magazine to be emptied in the blink of an eye. A safety feature oddly absent on all modern shotguns. The only way to unload tube magazine shotguns is by manually working the slide or action, which can result in an accidently discharge if you are the village idiot... or just unlucky.

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

[jester]

Actualy you can empty a tube from a shotgun without feeding them through the chamber.

Flip the weapon upside down, push the feeding lever up and depress the lever that holds the shells in place and pop, pop, pop, out come the shells pretty fast.