Favorite Shotgun

[jester]

I'll go with the M198A1 155mm howitzer in the horizontal postion with a beehive round!

TOP THAT SUCKERS!

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by jester

I'll go with the M198A1 155mm howitzer in the horizontal postion with a beehive round!

TOP THAT SUCKERS!

Did they make beehive for the 203mm?

[sglancy12]

I'm going to have to go with the Winchester M1897 Trench gun.

Five round tubular magazine with one in the chamber for six.

Pump shotgun, with an exposed hammer, so you can carry a round in the chamber and easily see whether the weapon is cocked, hence whether the weapon is safe.

Allegedly you can hold the trigger down and work the slide to fire very very fast (but with little accuracy).

You can attach a bayonet, specifically the M1905 Bayonet, which is a good long pig sticker for those times you blunder into someone in the dark.

It has a magazine release button on it that allows the entire tubular magazine to be emptied in the blink of an eye. A safety feature oddly absent on all modern shotguns. The only way to unload tube magazine shotguns is by manually working the slide or action, which can result in an accidently discharge if you are the village idiot... or just unlucky.

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

[jester]

Actualy you can empty a tube from a shotgun without feeding them through the chamber.

Flip the weapon upside down, push the feeding lever up and depress the lever that holds the shells in place and pop, pop, pop, out come the shells pretty fast.

[Legbreaker]

That depends on the weapon in question. I've handled (and own one) where that is physically impossible. The only way to unload without stripping the weapon to it's component parts is to cycle the rounds through the chamber and out the ejection port.

[sglancy12]

Originally Posted by jester

Actualy you can empty a tube from a shotgun without feeding them through the chamber.

Flip the weapon upside down, push the feeding lever up and depress the lever that holds the shells in place and pop, pop, pop, out come the shells pretty fast.

Shoot. I forgot about that. I just checked and yes, it worked on my Mossberg 500.

But you have to admit that this is a fairly clumsy operation, and it still only gets the shells out one at a time.

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

[jester]

[QUOTE=sglancy12;18324]

Originally Posted by jester

Actualy you can empty a tube from a shotgun without feeding them through the chamber.

Flip the weapon upside down, push the feeding lever up and depress the lever that holds the shells in place and pop, pop, pop, out come the shells pretty fast.[/QUOTE

Shoot. I forgot about that. I just checked and yes, it worked on my Mossberg 500.

But you have to admit that this is a fairly clumsy operation, and it still only gets the shells out one at a time.

A. Scott Glancy, President TCCorp, dba Pagan Publishing

Then you're doing it wrong

You can do it one by one, but with a little practice you can hold the tong or whatever that part is down and pop pop pop, they come out with the force and pressure of the spring and fingers can be hit if you aren't careful. I will have to practice when I get home, I haven't even had my shottys out in a couple years let alone loaded or fired them.

[Brother in Arms]

While I like many of the shotguns listed
my favorite shotgun is the Ithaca Model 37!

Here are its major benefits, It has fewer parts than most pump shotguns which means less parts to potentialy lose or wear out. It has all steel contruction, wereas the reciever and trigger group of many of the other shotguns have aluminum or plastic components (which are difficult to repair if damaged). It has only one openening in the reciever so its less likely to acumulate dirt and debris, the other benefit is the location of the loading/ejection port is that its on the bottom of the reciever making both the loading and ejection of spent shells ambidexstrous.Another feature of this firearm is that it has no disconector meaning that the trigger can be held down and the forend pumped and it will continue to fire you send 5 rounds down range really fast. Like most other pump shotguns it has an easily removed barrel and they can swapped for longer or shorter barrel lengths.
I also really love the asthetics of this shotgun, it has smooth clean lines and it handles very smoothly and comes up on target well. It is also a fairly light weight shotgun.

It does have a few drawbacks...the majority of these shotguns can only chamber 2 3/4" shells so you cant use 3" magnum rounds, lessening the ability to use found ammo. That being said 2 3/4 are most common especially in the T2K period. Also doesn/t have many accesories which is not something I really see as a drawback. As I like keep it simple but then again if anything I am pretty old fashioned.

If I was toting an model 37 it would probably be the 20 riot model, with a nylon M14 sling. If I could I would aquire #4 buckshott which contains 28 pellets of .24 caliber diameter. If I couldn't aquire that 00 or 000 buckshot.

(as for saiga 12 importation to the US I had one imported in 2000 but I don't think this shotgun would exsist in t2K)

[Raellus]

I've got my eye on a 6 shot Mossberg 500 tactical with pistol grip and CAR-style adjustable stock. Now if only I can convince my wife that it's a good investment...

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Raellus

I've got my eye on a 6 shot Mossberg 500 tactical with pistol grip and CAR-style adjustable stock. Now if only I can convince my wife that it's a good investment...

I envy you guys living in places with less restrictive gun laws. Here in Oz even pump action shotguns are a no-no. Ridiculous.

[Webstral]

Originally Posted by Targan

I envy you guys living in places with less restrictive gun laws. Here in Oz even pump action shotguns are a no-no. Ridiculous.

Here, the NRA would have us believe that if we don't all become lifetime members (of the NRA), the Democrats in charge of [insert a) White House b) Senate c) House of Representatives d) governor's mansion e) state legislature f) two or more of the above] will follow the example set by the UK and Australia. It's a shame that the two extremes of the private firearms issue can't come to some agreement, as both sides have some things to offer and some baggage in need of shedding.

Here in the People's Republic of California, the state has a list of features that classify a weapon as an assault weapon. When the legislature realized that banning specific firearms was futile (renaming a firearm is easier than amending a law to include a re-named firearm), they devised a list of features that includes a pistol grip, a detachable magazine with a capacity greater than ten rounds, a bayonet lug, a flash suppressor, and a folding stock. Any weapon with more than one of these features is considered an "assault weapon", which is not to be confused with an assault rifle. Owning an assault weapon is a felony. There are plenty of ways around this, though. For instance, one can build an SKS with a muzzle brake and a monte carlo stock and have the option of leaving the bayonet lug intact. I really don't see the need for a bayonet lug in the civilian world. That's why God made the .357.

I'd love to go back to Arizona as a gun owner, though. Or Texas, or Nevada.

Webstral

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Targan

I envy you guys living in places with less restrictive gun laws. Here in Oz even pump action shotguns are a no-no. Ridiculous.

In Texas, gun laws are very lenient compared to the rest of the country, but the mentally ill (like me, dammit) still can't get one!

The thing about "assault weapon" laws is that they are usually drafted by the anti-gun lobby. I'm pretty left-wing politically and I think the anti-gun lobby is rabid. (I also think the NRA is rabid as well, to be fair.) Given the right circumstances, I could kill someone bare-handed or with my feet, should they be declared "assault weapons?" Everything could be an "assault weapon" -- you just have to know how to use it.

[Targan]

Originally Posted by Brother in Arms

While I like many of the shotguns listed

BIA! Good to see you posting again man.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Brother in Arms

(as for saiga 12 importation to the US I had one imported in 2000 but I don't think this shotgun would exsist in t2K)

The Saiga would exist in T2K, but would probably not be found outside of Soviet, Polish, and Czech military hands (barring capture, of course).

[Badbru]

Originally Posted by sglancy12

I'm going to have to go with the Winchester M1897 Trench gun.

Five round tubular magazine with one in the chamber for six.

Pump shotgun, with an exposed hammer, so you can carry a round in the chamber and easily see whether the weapon is cocked, hence whether the weapon is safe.

Allegedly you can hold the trigger down and work the slide to fire very very fast (but with little accuracy).

You can attach a bayonet, specifically the M1905 Bayonet, which is a good long pig sticker for those times you blunder into someone in the dark.

It has a magazine release button on it that allows the entire tubular magazine to be emptied in the blink of an eye. A safety feature oddly absent on all modern shotguns. The only way to unload tube magazine shotguns is by manually working the slide or action, which can result in an accidently discharge if you are the village idiot... or just unlucky.

Absolutely concurr with this assessment for all those reasons, plus one;

I also think it looks cool.

[Brother in Arms]

BADBRU

Written by Sglancy12

in regards to the model 1897 winchester

"It has a magazine release button on it that allows the entire tubular magazine to be emptied in the blink of an eye. A safety feature oddly absent on all modern shotguns. The only way to unload tube magazine shotguns is by manually working the slide or action, which can result in an accidentally discharge if you are the village idiot... or just unlucky."

Something many people don't know....In most modern shotguns if you depress the shell stop with your finger (little arm inside of the reciever that hold the shell in the tube) it will spit out one live round at a time. I have had to do with many many times with the remington 870 when the action's got stuck shut but there were still lives rounds in the chamber.

Brother in Arms

[Raellus]

My Mossberg 500 has the same feature. It's definitely a safer way to empty the mag- no chance of accidentally discharge and it's easier on the shells too.