What is "canon"?

[Mohoender]

Leg I appreciate several of your observations (and I'm not being sarcastic) but here you start to look a bit like ancient knight on a kind of quest he feels he is the only one to understand or may be like Don Quixote de la Mancha (No insult but may be some teasing. Don't take me wrong). Just to put it as the French would say: "Vous êtes plus royaliste que le Roi" (You are getting more royalist than the king himself).

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

It seems that my position on this has not been sufficently explained in a manner that all can understand.

You have make your point pretty clear and somewhat in quite rude way which in my opinion doesn't help your point. Point which is perfectly legitimate to begin with but now can you calm down on it.

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

In other words, the published material - books, Challenge magazines, etc, are the foundation on which everything else is built. These materials are the cornerstone of the T2K universe - change what's in the books, particularly with regard to history, and it's no longer canon T2K.

Obvious, you have been hitting at an open door.

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

HOWEVER, just because something isn't covered in canon, doesn't mean it should not be used. Canon, as stated, is a base, a starting point. Adding additional detail is not only allowable, but vital!

For me that position of yours has been clear but understand that the way you put things could have been felt in a wrong way by some.

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

All I am saying is that the GDW materials must be referred to and expanded upon, not changed wholesale and the result labelled "canon" when clearly it is not.

Obvious again. By the way it is refered to all the time on this forum and if someone forget to refer to it once in a while, Big deal!

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

Everyone is, has been and always will be free to do whatever they wish, as long as their ideas either as individuals or groups is not asserted to be canon.

Again this is obvious.

Originally Posted by Legbreaker

We now have three seperate canon timelines. Surely we already have enough variety to give everyone what they need to play the game?

Sorry you are wrong. We Have two not three. I imagine that the third one you are referring to is T2013 and I won't follow you on that one. This is not T2K canon it is simply an entirely new game reworking the initial idea (therefore following your own definition of canon, it's a new canon). They have put up something different, they have written it in different manner as well, they have made a new set of rules. I'm not saying it's bad (for my part its great and I personnaly grant full respect to Smokewolf and Tegyrius for that). I even bought it but will probably never use it. For my part, it comes too late and I grew too old to learn new RPG rules. The same happened with Star Wars. They are free to do as they please, I'm free not to buy it.

Now that this is said. Canon is ever present weither we say it or not. Without the original T2K team we would not be having these exchanges and they have put some amazing work. Even the weakest of their products is an amazing work (that point is as good for the T2013 team). Trust me on that. I'm writing books and published a RPG of my own, I perfectly know how hard it is and sometimes unrewarding. When you write a novel you are recognized as an author (talented or not). When writing a RPG your are at the same time graphist, novelist, game designer... (all well recognized artistic professions) but you are more hardly recognized as an artist.

Please don't take this as an attack but honestly you are tiring me (and what I'm saying is only me). To put it in a rudest way: "Lache nous la grappe".