The loss of modern infantry weapons

[jester]

I am so glad we never had yo account for our "spent" blanks Because most were never spent, but, they did get "used" or so the report went.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by jester

I am so glad we never had yo account for our "spent" blanks Because most were never spent, but, they did get "used" or so the report went.

Not to mention those magazines that went missing every so often...

[jester]

I was always the devoted team and squad leader, giving up my BFA to the new boots who didn't have one so they could get the important training they needed. I was so selfless that way

[neuk]

When the pistol ban hit the Uk a few years ago, the poilce went round and took all the guns people had regardless of age etc. anything 9mm or modern did not all get destroyed.

1. the police took some into storage.

2. the police stole some and then sold them on. local officer got nicked for this around 12 months ago selling guns taken almost 6-8 years ago, and then destroyed! so what the govenment tells us and what the govenment does are two very different things.

[waiting4something]

Originally Posted by neuk

When the pistol ban hit the Uk a few years ago, the poilce went round and took all the guns people had regardless of age etc. anything 9mm or modern did not all get destroyed.

1. the police took some into storage.

2. the police stole some and then sold them on. local officer got nicked for this around 12 months ago selling guns taken almost 6-8 years ago, and then destroyed! so what the govenment tells us and what the govenment does are two very different things.

I can't believe people gave them up so easy. Personally, I rather die.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by waiting4something

I can't believe people gave them up so easy. Personally, I rather die.

Mr. Heston would be proud of you

[waiting4something]

Originally Posted by kato13

Mr. Heston would be proud of you

Thanks, I know the media wouldn't.

[neuk]

Originally Posted by waiting4something

I can't believe people gave them up so easy. Personally, I rather die.

Friends of mine waited until the police turned up ate their door. an MP5-A3 puts a very good argument across, lets not forget the the police dog and of course the universal key they have for all doors in case you have lost yours, the seldge hammer.

No what happened was wrong on so many fronts, it has not stopped the illgeal weapons from being there, and a SMLE is so much more fun! Also England has a lot of guns for head of pop, same as English police are armed just they are better hidden, and not so many as the USA or Europe.

An English A.R.V. Armed Responce Vehicle, has two officers, two MP5-A3's and 9mm pistols, CS gas, and stun guns. The training at county level is done by SAS trained firearm officers to a very high level. Responce to pretty much anywhere is around 20 mins with Helicopter support, just for you Merc or Spec ops fans

[waiting4something]

Originally Posted by neuk

Friends of mine waited until the police turned up ate their door. an MP5-A3 puts a very good argument across, lets not forget the the police dog and of course the universal key they have for all doors in case you have lost yours, the seldge hammer.

No what happened was wrong on so many fronts, it has not stopped the illgeal weapons from being there, and a SMLE is so much more fun! Also England has a lot of guns for head of pop, same as English police are armed just they are better hidden, and not so many as the USA or Europe.

An English A.R.V. Armed Responce Vehicle, has two officers, two MP5-A3's and 9mm pistols, CS gas, and stun guns. The training at county level is done by SAS trained firearm officers to a very high level. Responce to pretty much anywhere is around 20 mins with Helicopter support, just for you Merc or Spec ops fans

See the ironic thing here is now english cops are armed even though they have for the most part disarmed their citizens/potential probelm children. Infact your saying they have special response teams with MP-5's and a freakin Helo? Huh, sounds like more then enough reason fight those draconian goons that work for the government of England. I mean if the guns are "gone" now, why do they need such a paramilitary police force. Sure, nowdays they will use the war on terrorism as a excuse, but really they just want all the power so people can never challenge them.
I understand why people don't challenge the government- it's scary and you will be made the bad guy by the media. Not just that, it's almost a sure trip to the grave if your lucky and prison if you aren't. I prey that bs doesn't happen in the States, but I know what my choice will be if it does- not trying to be a hard dog, but hay somebody has to jump in the fire. Sorry for your loss of freedom man.

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by neuk

When the pistol ban hit the Uk a few years ago, the poilce went round and took all the guns people had regardless of age etc. anything 9mm or modern did not all get destroyed.

Purely in a T2k context, there is a possibility that handguns would never have been banned in the UK. The handgun ban came into effect in 1997, as a direct result of the 1996 Dunblane Massacre.

[kato13]

Originally Posted by Rainbow Six

Purely in a T2k context, there is a possibility that handguns would never have been banned in the UK. The handgun ban came into effect in 1997, as a direct result of the 1996 Dunblane Massacre.

Dunblane massacre

Since I Googled it I expect others would have. I remembered it but not the details.

[Rainbow Six]

Originally Posted by kato13

Dunblane massacre

Since I Googled it I expect others would have. I remembered it but not the details.

Thanks Kato....

My bad...I should have elaborated...

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by jester

I was always the devoted team and squad leader, giving up my BFA to the new boots who didn't have one so they could get the important training they needed. I was so selfless that way

You have no idea where my mind went at first when I saw "BFA"...

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by jester

I am so glad we never had yo account for our "spent" blanks Because most were never spent, but, they did get "used" or so the report went.

When I was in, the attitude among the supply pogues was, "Guess you didn't need all those blanks, pyro, chemlights, etc. We'll allot you less next year." So definitely, everything "got used."

[Webstral]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

When I was in, the attitude among the supply pogues was, "Guess you didn't need all those blanks, pyro, chemlights, etc. We'll allot you less next year." So definitely, everything "got used."

This attitude is amazingly widespread and amazingly wasteful. I've gone out on many a training exercise in which the unused pyro, blanks, and whatnot are simply consumed at the end of the exercise so that next cycle's ration won't shrink. As a young lieutenant, I got a serious chewing of my fourth point of contact for bringing a half-dozen belts of 7.62 blanks back to the armory. I thought I was conserving resources. What I was really doing was telling the battalion S3 that my company didn't need so much; my CO was hopping mad about it.

Changing this type of thinking requires senior leadership to change their minds about how supply is run. In Twilight: 2000, every round is going to be counted when it comes to training. Simply burning up ammunition to keep the issue of ammunition the same won't be an option. I suppose, then, all it takes is a limited nuclear war for the resources to take on value.

Webstral