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Old 04-03-2013, 06:47 AM
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this would also be a good add for the next edition of the online fanzine - very similar to the mini-adventures that were in Challenge.
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Old 04-03-2013, 06:54 AM
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Even if you couldnt use the aviation fuel for the Stryker a 100 gallons of aviation fuel would be of a lot of use for their two remaining helicopters, and who knows what can be stripped from the C-130 itself. The vehicle is a huge prize by itself but a good party will look at what other treasures can be found.

Plus all you dont need is NA finding that gas and being able to get some air support for their next mission from an old P-51 that they have ammo for but no gas.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:23 AM
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Stripping the C-130 is an adventure in of itself. Radios, web strapping, engines, electronics. They could fill a couple of dump trucks full of salvageable gear if they wanted to and all of it would have a use somewhere else.
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Old 04-03-2013, 09:34 AM
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I'm not sure how much the team could haul in/on the Stryker; it's my understanding that the turret basket pretty much negates the cargo abilities of the M1128, but yeah I'm sure an intrepid group could find a way to get some stuff off the bird, too.

Also, a quick note about the Stryker on the C130: IRL, the MGS is too tall to put on a C130. For purposes of Twilight:2000, the Ridgeway turret installed on the MGS can "duck" for loading and unloading: the turret is rotated to 0' and the gun and attendant systems lower and lock in place. A series of mechanical interlocks keep the gun from firing when in that position. It takes 1 combat round to unfold and be usable again.
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Old 04-03-2013, 02:34 PM
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You could always use the Jerry cans you brought the diesel in with to take the fuel from the plane back. Considering how rare avgas is it could be almost as big a find as the vehicle itself

Considering that 100 gallons = 379 liters worth of avgas

Using the costs in the 1st edition thats 60 dollars per liter = 22,740 dollars worth of avgas - thats a lot of trading ability there

Also for something like the OH 58 Kiowa AHIP that represents over three hours of flight time - i.e. enough to fill her tanks with some left over for the next mission
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AvGas isn't that big of an issue, to be honest - all over Orlando and surrounding areas are littered with small airports, and even after the degradation of fuel, and use of same from '97 to '01 (when the adventure takes place), there's still plenty to go around for just a pair of helos. However as you point out, New America would like to get some of it as well...
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:22 PM
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Its a nice addition to the the story though and opens up different paths for the adventures. And could lead to more adventures -i.e. the electronic parts you bring back arent needed in Orlando but it turns out they are needed somewhere else and they are willing to trade something you need for it.

Its sort of like in D&D - always amazed at how many parties walked away from an adventure with gold and magic items - and left literally thousands of gold pieces of perfectly good weapons, armor and supplies behind that could have been take as well

A find of a plane like this with as much of it intact as it is, for the right party, represents a literal treasure trove far beyond just the vehicle.
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this would also be a good add for the next edition of the online fanzine - very similar to the mini-adventures that were in Challenge.
Plus one, as the kids say.

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Also, a quick note about the Stryker on the C130: IRL, the MGS is too tall to put on a C130.
Even with the kneeling suspension?

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Plus one, as the kids say.



Even with the kneeling suspension?

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Yah; all the quotes and info I've read say it's a no-go on the Herky. However, in my game-canon...
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Old 04-03-2013, 07:41 PM
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Cool scenario idea!

Not to nitpick, but the proper designation is the M-8 Greyhound Armored Car. This was a 37mm armed (and coax 0.30mg) 6x6 armored car designed by Ford. The chassis was also used for the M-20 armored utility car.

The M3 was an early war open topped scout car armed with machine guns (usually 1x .50 at the front and 1-2x 0.30 mounted on a perimeter rail (aka "the skate rail") and trolley deal.

M-3's do exist in numbers...they were simple, 4 wheel drive, and built well by the White truck company. A number exist in collections. Imagine a US halftrack of WW2 with wheels in the back and you get it.

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