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12-25-2010, 03:06 AM
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Real World Conflicts...
Hi everyone,
I need some help with something for my timeline... a list of real world conflicts (brush fire wars) that occurred from 1980 up to now so i can figure a way to work them into a timeline where the Soviet Bloc hadn't collapsed. The biggest place that the Soviets could LEARN how to modernize their armed forces could be during the Yugoslav Wars. The long build-up to the full blow nuke exchanges just might be a fun little thing for us to play with. I have set up a campaign wiki, and am working on a way to put each page of the timeline section to represent a full year... that way we can put out detailed combat operations. I am going to use a lot of these ideas for the "World War IV: A World in Flames" concept that i might be able to talk timeline into printing if it gets off the ground. http://t2k-campaign.wikispaces.com/
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12-26-2010, 02:00 AM
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A small list from my mind
I include internal conflicts:
Latin America: - Nicaragua (US backed rebellion) - Guatemala - San Salvador - Colombia (FARC...) - Peru (Sendaro Luminoso) - Bolivia - Grenada - Mexico Africa - Namibia (South Africa) - Angola (Unita-government) - Zaire-RDC (on going) - Liberia - Nigeria - Sahara Tuareg conflict (Niger to Mauritania) - Algeria - Chad - Sudan - Eritrea-Ethiopia - Somalia - Uganda - Rwanda and Burundi - Senegal - Ivory Coast and I forget several Middle East - Israel-Syria - Lebanon (mutliple) - Irak-Iran - Kurdistan (involving Iran, Iraq, Turkey) - Yemen - Irak Europe - Tensions between Greece and Turkey - Yugoslavia and, then, Serbia - Nagorno-Karabakh - Uprisings within USSR Asia - Sri Lanka - Pakistan-India - Myanmar - Thailand - Indonesia (including Timor) - Philippines (MORO) - China-Taiwan - Koreas - Border tensions USSR-China (until 1990's) Useful links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...tary_conflicts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...5%E2%80%931989 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...0%E2%80%932002 You'll find a link to various conflict by periods from the first link I gave. By wiki, you'll also find a list of conflicts by region. Good luck
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12-26-2010, 07:40 AM
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thanks Mohoender! I knew that Wiki had something like this. i just got flustered last night and couldn't find them!
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12-26-2010, 11:38 AM
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If the Soviet Union had lasted past the '80s, it's possible, if not likely, that some of its constituent "republics" could have attempted to break away anyway, especially those in the Caucuses region. Lord knows some actually did immediately after the fact and there was fighting in the area between various factions (Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Moldova [E. Europe]). Suppressing these internal rebellions would have given the Soviets valuable operational and tactical experience and resulted in attempts at rapid modernization. It would have also increased tensions with the international community as I am sure such conflicts would be viewed by many as violent, anti-democratic repression.
And then there's the PRC. Border conflicts between the USSR and China were (and still are, to a degree) a possibility. This, of course, is where WWIII essentially starts in the v1.0 timeline.
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12-26-2010, 02:47 PM
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12-26-2010, 03:24 PM
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I agree with Raellus and that would pause the problem of the Baltic States and Ukraine.
Another interesting fact comes from the braking away from those republics as well. In my own timeline, I use South Ossetia, Abkhazia and Crimea. Crimea IMO is the most interesting event. It attempted to brake away from Ukraine on May 5 1992, establishing its first constitution on the next day. Crimea agreed to remain part of Ukraine only two weeks later in exchange for expended autonomy and under pressure by Moscow. What if...
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