Out of Mothballs: Obsolescent Weaponry on the T2k Battlefield

[Raellus]

Most of our discussion here has focused on land weapon systems. It looks like the Russians are going to dust off some old bi-planes for use in Ukraine.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...war-in-ukraine

To be fair, the North Koreans have never stopped using the AN-2. It's ability to fly low and slow, and it's low-metal use construction make it a somewhat stealthy platform, good for delivering SOF teams behind enemy lines.

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[Raellus]

Someone posted a link to this 11-minute video on the FB fan page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYMgYpavdB4

In this video:

Mosin-Nagant
Maxim
DP27
MG42
MP40
PPSh41
PPS-43

There's also an interesting bit about how vehicle-mounted PKT machineguns, which don't have an external trigger mechanism, are being retrofitted with improvised ones by Kiev auto-mechanics for use as infantry GPMGs.

And a couple of newer (non-classic T2k) systems are included as well.

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[Vespers War]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Most of our discussion here has focused on land weapon systems. It looks like the Russians are going to dust off some old bi-planes for use in Ukraine.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...war-in-ukraine

To be fair, the North Koreans have never stopped using the AN-2. It's ability to fly low and slow, and it's low-metal use construction make it a somewhat stealthy platform, good for delivering SOF teams behind enemy lines.

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In a bit of irony, the Antonov Design Bureau that the An-2 was developed by was based in Kyiv.

[Raellus]

Ironic, indeed.

First introduced in 1950, the AZP S-60 57mm anti-aircraft gun is currently seeing combat in Ukraine, most often against ground targets. It would definitely see a return to duty in the Twilight War.

I can easily imagine a scenario were an AZP S-60 57mm anti-aircraft gun shoots down an AN-2 Colt.

[Raellus]

Is this old-timey canon functional, or just for show? If it's the former, that has to set some sort of out-of-mothballs record.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...int-in-ukraine

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[swaghauler]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Is this old-timey canon functional, or just for show? If it's the former, that has to set some sort of out-of-mothballs record.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...int-in-ukraine

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Every day Ukraine resembles a Twilight2000 campaign more and more. Europe didn't "demill" their stuff like the US did. That cannon could be operational but I'm betting the Ukrainians put it there (as a scavenged weapon system) and not the Russians.

[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Is this old-timey canon functional, or just for show? If it's the former, that has to set some sort of out-of-mothballs record.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zon...int-in-ukraine

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It looks like a toy. For that matter, the soldier looks like a toy. Note the uniform gray color in the two, and notice the lumpishness. Someone took a joke picture.

[Raellus]

Originally Posted by pmulcahy11b

It looks like a toy. For that matter, the soldier looks like a toy. Note the uniform gray color in the two, and notice the lumpishness. Someone took a joke picture.

Could be. I have seen any follow-up either way.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/39228/...ibious-vehicle

I wonder if these massive LARC-LX amphibs might have been dusted off and used in Europe- perhaps to cross the Vistula- during T2k.

Paul, I poked around on your site for this one and didn't find it, but I wasn't sure which category to look in.

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[pmulcahy11b]

Originally Posted by Raellus

B]LARC-LX[/B] amphibs might have been dusted off and used in Europe- perhaps to cross the Vistula- during T2k.

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I didn't do it; it's not on my site. I had to look it up in Bing to find out what it was; ah well, add it to the list. (That's how the Bombers got in there; they were on my list.)

[Vespers War]

Originally Posted by Raellus

Could be. I have seen any follow-up either way.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/39228/...ibious-vehicle

I wonder if these massive LARC-LX amphibs might have been dusted off and used in Europe- perhaps to cross the Vistula- during T2k.

Paul, I poked around on your site for this one and didn't find it, but I wasn't sure which category to look in.

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Dusted off? Four of them were still in service in 2001. They hadn't seen combat service since the '70's, but they were still in commission with the 309th Transportation Company, 11th Transportation Battalion (based out of Fort Story, Virginia Beach, Virginia). There are at least four survivors in museums, one in Florida, one in Virginia, one in Tennessee, and one in the Netherlands.